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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:29 PM
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A thorough irrefutable essay on Israeli's influence in gov.
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 06:37 PM by lynch03
I am surprised I haven't seen this being circulated ANYWERE. I am actually afraid to post this after reading this well substantiated account of the power of the Israel lobby and how it translated into the Iraq war

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf

I can't seem to get the link to work . It's written by John J. Mearsheimmer (university of chicago) and Stephen M. Walt (harvard)

It's a pdf and I have no Idea why the link doesen't work here./
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bostonbabs Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:34 PM
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1. link is bad
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:35 PM
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2. If that's what I think it is (bad link)
This has been posted here twice today, and has been refuted both times.

This post will also be moved to the I/P forum.
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:36 PM
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3. can you link me?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:40 PM
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7. Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x119290
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:37 PM
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4. So it's the Jeeeeuws' fault. OK, sure. Funny how this is so popular among
the rightwing assholes, yet still shows up here now and again.

Redstone
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:46 PM
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8. nm
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 06:47 PM by lynch03
nm
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:37 PM
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5. Which Israeli's influence?
Or are all Jews alike?

And why is ONE lobby out of many SO important to YOU?

But thanks for running to us with your "proof."

BTW, five hundred words or less, tell me how Israel benefits from America's weakened financial, diplomatic, and military power caused by the Iraq War.

(It's always great to find out how a tiny debtor nation runs a major power. We always wanted to know how they did it.)
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:39 PM
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6. it is all over DU in one form or another.
Your link doesn't work.

Also, it is hardly "irrefutable."

It is being discussed in the following places:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x199380

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x119785

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x119290 (which is a combonation of three threads)

Also, do read, Mearsheimer and Walt's Anti-Israel Screed: A Relentless Assault in Scholarly Guise
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:47 PM
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9. What the hell?? What forum am I on?
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 06:49 PM by lynch03

I post a legitimate article about the influence the Israel Lobby has on the government and I get this response that turns my post into "it's the JEWS FAULT". What kinda obtuse response is that.... seriously.. I really expected more from this forum. This is in no way blaming the JEWS it's blaming the Israel lobby
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:51 PM
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12. Bullshit. It's exactly the same thing. Anti-semitism and xenophobia.
The last resort of people who don't want to admit that WE, the Americans, let this happen to our country. Not the sinister, hook-nosed, cleverly-plotting JEEEUWS.

Redstone
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:54 PM
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13. I suppose the "war for oil" rationale is much more well documented.
IF you're going to bash this, at least provide your brilliant explanation as to why the Iraq war was REALLY waged.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:59 PM
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14. Uh-I've never seen any pictures of Bush playing kissy-face & holding hands
with Ariel Sharon.


Prince Abdullah, OTOH, is another matter.

Sure- but those Saudis, they just LOOOOOOOVE Israel.
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 07:47 PM
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15. Opposition to Israel policies equals anti-semitism -I'M OUTTA HERE


Discussions of Israel turn this forum crazier then any right wing forum out there. I'll search for somewhere that is actually willing to debate rather then call me a racist.. And now someone who thinks they're witty is going to reccommend Storm-front...sigh. seeya
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:48 PM
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10. Countdown to "I/P" Forum....
5,4,3,2,1.........BLAST OFF! :nuke:
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:49 PM
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11. Harvarrd..University of Chicago article
I thought it was credible...I guess not.. sigh.
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