Does Skull and Bones actually matter to you?

I'm sure this has been asked in a poll format, but I'm curious if Skull and Bones and other secret societies matter to you as a voter? The topid has been hotly debated everywhere and discussing it really wont help very much in this context, but let's get some polling numbers. Does this actually matter to you as a voter?

For the record, I am not a conspiracy theorist though I am an enthusiast. I think conspiracy theories are generally a lot more interesting than the actual truth behind the theory. I am very much anybody but Bush. I like Kerry and intend to vote for him, but I will vote for any candidate who gets the nomination.

How do you feel about social fraternities? The Masons?

amongst many conspiracy theorists. Do a search on the web and you'll find that nearly all of the hits will describe the Masons in much the same way Skull & Bones has been discussed on DU since Kerry announced his candidacy.

then why am I so poor?

Sorry to make light of it, but bizarre, whacked-out conspiracy theories just make people dismiss *real* conspiracies when they actually do happen.

I'm glad to see that "No" seems to be winning quite easily.

I would say it does matter.

:shrug:

As Bill Minutaglio writes in his biography of George W., "First Son," there was a knock on the future president's door at Yale on the night he had to decide. When he opened it, Mr. Minutaglio recounts, his father, then a congressman, was standing outside "asking that his first son do the right thing and join Skull and Bones — become a good man."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/02/politics/02LETT.html


If you run a Skull and Bones candidate against a Skull and Bones candidate, the Skull and Bones candidate will win every time. - Harry Truman, paraphrased

that's another matter.

Dekes aren't part of conspiracy to control the world -- but when they are drunk enough they may think they are.

after beer pong, they think they own the world. Until the next day. :)

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It's the Builderbergers and the Trilateral Commission that we should fear if conspiracy theories are true. Bush Sr. and Clinton belonged to both of them...I don't know about shrub.

Andover was really in the thick of this sort of stuff. They had a secret society sort of junior grade where you practiced to be at Skull and Bones at Yale when you were in Andover. It sounds like a joke today, but it wasn't then. What happened was the crowd that was in with Prescott Bush and George H. Walker at W.A. Harriman, a number of them became prominent in the intelligence community and then when you get to the firm that was merged out of W.A. Harriman, which was Brown Brothers Harriman, one of the partners there was Robert A. Lovett, who was the son of one of the big cheeses in Harriman's railroad operation, which is how they knew George H. -- I mean, it all fits together. Robert A. Lovett was the man who came up with the blueprint for the C.I.A. after World War II, which was never acknowledged and only became public knowledge maybe 15, 20 years ago. So, he was a major player, and Prescott Bush, I have no doubt, was very close to the intelligence agencies. During World War II he was a director of two companies. One was Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton, and the second is Vanadium Corporation of America. They were both involved in atomic energy projects. Prescott Bush was a friend of Alan Dulles who went on to be the C.I.A. Director, but he was also a lawyer during the 30's for some of Brown Brothers Harriman international gamesmanship, so to speak. So, they were very tightly knit into all of this. And the real thing about the Bushes is how far back they go in this loose combination of investment banking, Wall Street law, the intelligence community, international business, the State Department, and the War Department.


more....
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/01/23/0445212&mode=thread&tid=25

Allen Dulles, the first CIA director, was more than just a mere friend of Grandpa Prescott Bush. He was the lawyer who helped launder Prescott's Nazi blood money. A good Bonesman is about as likely as a good Klansman.

Otherwise I would be a jellyfish-man.

But then the recent report on Democracy Now! made me think of it differently:

"I don't think that the elected officials who represent our country especially the president should be allowed to have an allegiance to any secret group. Secrecy overshadows democracy. We need a transparency so we can hold elected officials accountable. I don't think its coincidence that I what I would call the most secretive government in America today since the Nixon era is run by the world's most infamous secret society. That's something we want to avoid in the future."

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0122-10.htm

Kerry's membership in S&B will not prevent me from voting for him IF he gets nominated, but this comment makes me that much more leery of him or anyone involved in these societies.

I DON'T say that Kerry is involved in some sinister plot to rule the world or is involved in criminal activities. There are secret societies at many elite schools. What concerns me is that, according to the DN! interview, S&B members often seem to get selected for positions of power in this country by other S&B'ers, giving them an unfair advantage simply because of their membership.

I swear, when Bush was running against Gore. Skull and Bones was so hated and so maligned here. If you stood up for it, you'd be labelled a republican or worse. What kind of bizzaro world have I stepped into? Where a large number of DUers vote that S&B is no big deal. Anyone else on DU back in 2000 know what I mean? This is freaky...

thank you for the reminder.

Bones don't care who wins, as long as it's a Bones Presidency. Alexandra Robbins, Author of Secrets of the Tomb.....