Repubs will use the immigration debate to hold onto Congress

If we spend the next 8 months debating immigration we will not be talking about the war in Iraq or domestic spying or the end to social programs and environmental programs or anything else that is important to all of us here.

Can't you see that the immigration debate is being used to take your eyes off of every other issue that is important? Not only are repubs split on this issue but so are Dems. It is the one issue that does not cut neatly along party lines. There is nothing we can do about immigration in the next 8 months that will improve the problem. The right is using the draconian House immigration bill to keep control of congress. The law they propose will not make it to Bush. It is to anti immigrant just like prop 187 was. The repukes know that. This immigrant debate is a smoke screen to hide all of the repukes mismanagement of the country.

Stop debating immigration and keep your eyes on the prize, we can take back the country if we take back congress in 2006.

you have read the proposed bill, haven't you? I their signts are not only ilegal aliens but naturalized citizens

And one need only read through some of the recent DU threads on the subject of immigration to understand that Mountainman is 100% correct about this.

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upcoming elections! They are going to hem & haw until after the election because it's so dicey!

Especially since Sen. Kennedy & McCain are essentially on the same page AND I think they are trying to sponsor a bill together. Seems like I heard that on C-Span!

No matter WHAT is done about Illegal Immigration it's bound to Piss Off one faction or the other and given the nincompoops in Congress they're pretty much Chicken Shits!

As each day goes by I get more and more convinced that unless WE THE PEOPLE actually take to the streets, WE get NOTHING!

How is it that the Latino's & their supporters can come together and get soooooooooooo much coverage when an Anti-War Rally gets so little??? Answer: The Idiot wants a guest worker program and so it gets covered!! Pretty simple!

My view:

We have to either limit immigration to the U.S., make reciprocal free movement and immigration agreements with certain countries (which will eventually mean that we merge with that country in terms of government and identity) or do away with the concept of the "nation" altogether and declare all borders of all nations open. Free immigration can't just be a one-way street into the U.S. If people from other nations want to be free to live and work and own property here without first getting visas, then we should be able to do the same in the nations from which they come. So if Canadians want to cross the border at will and move around as if they were citizens here -- OK, but we should be able to do the same thing in Canada on the same terms.

Realistically, we don't have the economic means to let everyone who wants to live here come in whenever they want. We have to develop some control over, some limits on immigration. I agree with those who say that employers who give jobs to illegals -- even if it is just a one day job, should be punished severely. Let immigrants come in. Let them visit. Let them live off family, friends and charity for a while. There is nothing wrong with that -- especially if they are young. They are just traveling and broadening their experiences in life. When they realize they can't work, can't improve their quality of living, can't be independent, they will want to go back home. Immigrants should not be able to come in and stay just because they have money. They should not be able to buy a little cart and sell tamales and live on the streets or in some flophouse apartment for longer than a 3-month tourist visa allows.

We should continue to give legal immigration visas in limited numbers.

The Republican party is split right down the middle on that issue :-)