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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:56 PM
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Democrats to Unveil Comprehensive Real Security Program
Tomorrow!! I got this from Yahoo News. (sorry, don't know how to post the link).

Tue Mar 28, 2:48 PM ET

To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor

Contact: Jim Manley or Rebecca Kirszner, 202-224-2939, both of the Office of Harry Reid; Brendan Daly or Jennifer Crider, 202-226-7616, both of the Office of Nancy Pelosi

News Advisory:

House and Senate Democrats will hold a major event tomorrow at 1 p.m. to unveil the comprehensive Democratic plan to protect America: Real Security. Despite their tough talk, Republican's incompetence has made America less safe. Democrats will offer tough and smart policies to provide the real security that Americans expect and demand.

WHO: Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi

Senator Jack Reed

Congressman Ike Skelton

House and Senate Democrats

General Wesley Clark

Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State

Joe Wynn, the National Association of Black Veterans

Harold Schaitberger, President, International Association of Fire Fighters

WHAT: Announcement of Real Security, the comprehensive Democratic plan to protect America

WHEN: Wednesday, March 29 at 1 PM

WHERE: Columbus Club, Union Station, 50 Massachusetts Ave, NE, Washington D.C.

NOTE: All cameras and equipment must be in the Columbus Club by 11 AM for security sweep.

SATELLITE TRUCK PARKING: Parking for satellite trucks is available but must be prearranged. Please call Liz Oxhorn at (202) 224-2939 or Carrie James at (202) 226-7616 for all logistics and pre-set questions.

http://www.usnewswire.com/ or Yahoo link

/© 2006 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:59 PM
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1. Pissah. Now what about health care?
Just fantasizing again.
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:19 PM
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3. Health care?
I don't think anyone has been saying that the Dems don't have a plan for health care, but I have certainly heard all the pundits, etc ask over and over about a Dem Plan for Security.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:46 PM
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8. Why would you want healthcare when you can be safe?
I mean, first we have to convince the Republicans' base that we are bigger and stronger.

Sorry to sound sarcastic, but people in our area who are seniors are hurting badly for medicine and health care. I am like you...why not healthcare.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:55 PM
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10. I hope I live long enough to see the Democrats come back into power.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:01 PM
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12. I do, too. People are suffering.
Some of the things that will soon kick into the Medicare D will not allow many vital prescriptions.

I am very upset that we are going for national security first, I really am. People are hurting.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:39 PM
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19. Both my parents are hurting because of of the health care mess.
But I'm realistic to understand there is nothing we can do about it now. Not until we win in November.

We can't win in November without addressing our preceived weakness on National Security to overcome the "October suprise."
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:03 PM
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13. Because we can't win without winning on National Security.
Once we achieve Dem majorities in the congress in November, we can do something about healthcare...assuming * doesn't veto it.

In that case, healthcare will have to wait until 08'.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:06 PM
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14. It can't. Healthcare can not wait until 08
That winning on National Security has not been born out in polls lately. People care just as much about other things.

This is the creation of the DLC/Third Way, that we must prove we are strong.

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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:34 PM
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17. We can't win on health care until we have a majority.
And we won't have a majority unless we fix our perceived weakness on National Security.

You can't ignore the reason we've lost the last several elections. Simple arithmetic.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:12 PM
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15. We need to run on health care too.
I don't think we need to pick one or the other. We need to run on both.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:37 PM
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18. Exactly.
Then, when we win in November, we can address both issues.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:51 PM
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32. All of the Dem candidates are talking about Health care
I read their blogs.

Wes Clark is advocating for a plan that will eventually bring us to a single payer system.

I would hope that if the Democrats decide to roll out a health care plan, they chose to do it on a day devoted only to health care. Hmmm? It might get the attention it deserves then. Well, before the pundit and republicans rip it apart.

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trillian Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:10 PM
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2. Looking forward to hearing it.
It's about time they all get on the same page. The fact that Wes Clark is involved makes me hopeful.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:29 PM
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4. Thanks Arky....good to hear!!!
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 08:31 PM by capi888
Can't wait to read, see, HEAR !!! Are they going to put it on C-Span...do ya know?? I sure hope so. Maybe the MSM will pick it up...haha, or at least part of it.
NOW the RW can't say the Dems don't have a plan.
With Wes Clark involved, its going to be great!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:30 PM
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5. Silly Democrats
Hasn't anyone told them they have no plan?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:39 PM
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6. Harold Schaitberger. Albright...
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 08:48 PM by madfloridian
Thought that Schaitberger name sounded familiar. At a recent convention of that union he had mostly Republicans speaking, and has made it sound like they are ready to jump over. Now with Albright still in the mix, we are going for the security, and the internationalism.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/21/politics/21labor.html?ex=1143694800&en=327a0ea3f864d15a&ei=5070

"I realize that historically the Democrats have been friendlier toward workers," said Mr. Schaitberger, whose union has remained in the A.F.L.-C.I.O. as five unions have left the federation. "The bottom line is that at almost every level of government the government is split, and most legislatures are split. And you have to work both sides of the aisle to move an agenda."

The Teamsters, the service employees and other unions have begun cooperating with Republicans. But rarely have the Republicans made such strong overtures toward a union as they did on Monday toward the firefighters."

And more about him from an article he wrote for the DLC.

http://www.ppionline.org/ndol/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=127&subid=170&contentid=253214

"Security fears in the post-9/11 environment will be prominent in the mindset of Americans for years to come. Our message must make the case that we stand for a strong national defense, securing our homeland, and protecting our citizens and families.

We must frame issues to tie health care and retirement security to protecting the family and strengthening our nation's moral fiber. We must clearly say that a major part of faith and religious teaching is to work to improve the lives of the neediest in our country.

The results of the 2002 and 2004 elections speak for themselves. In the minds of voters, economic and labor issues could not overcome security, a strong national defense, and the belief in values-based decision-making by our leaders. Our movement needs to get back in touch before the next election is upon us."

What else Harold said from the NYT article...it really got my attention.
"He said his union would back the re-elections of Republicans like Gov. Rick Perry of Texas and Senator Mike DeWine of Ohio"

And he gets to stand on the podium to give the security message...why? Because he is having his union pander to Republicans? I do need to sort that out in my brain.



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:54 PM
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9. Well Ain't that somethin'! Means that maybe this guy....
Harold Schaitberger, President, International Association of Fire Fighters has decided to be on our side! Considering that many are so respectful of Fire Fighters, this could only help OUR SIDE in WINNING CONGRESS BACK!

Thanks Mad, For the info!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:59 PM
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11. Now that is one way to interpret it.
The other way is that he is heading toward the Republican Party. Do a search on it.

He endorsed Kerry in 04, so he was on the Democrats side then. I just sort of wonder about his ambiguous statements.

Pardon my sarcasm above, but we have this week been trying to help some people who are not getting the medication they need. No one cares.

Our local Dems are trying, but national Dems are more scared than Republicans.

We need health care now.

And Albright...she is the one who said the lives of half a million Iraqi kids were worth the sanctions. That broke my heart.

People here are suffering and it ain't from terrorism. I think our congressional leaders have some priorities out of order.
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:42 PM
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7. Let's write C-Span
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 08:44 PM by jen4clark
and request they cover this!

Suggest Events: Submit a public event that you think C-SPAN should cover:

events@c-span.org



Thanks ArkySue!

here's the Yahoo link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20060328/pl_usnw/democrats_to_unveil_comprehensive_real_security_program_tomorrow301_xml


All you have to do here is cut and paste. Long links don't matter.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:18 PM
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16. I don't mean to sound abrasive on this...but..
you need to do a search on the words "Real Security". The RW blogs picked up on it before the announcement today.

We have got seniors who feel helpless, nowhere to turn, some don't feel up to calling and begging congress or pharmacies for help....trust me, it is happening right now.

Our party has got to be sincere. We have got to stop this craven pandering to the right wing....safe safer safest. Baloney.

A lot of us have written Gov. Dean about sounding so "tough" lately. It is not like him, and it must be rubbing off. He used to care about healthcare passionately, maybe he still does. Maybe DC is contagious, who the hell knows.

But we have to stop this trying to prove to them that we are not what they are calling us...it is silly.

I feel sick.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:41 PM
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20. You've made your point......you don't like this.....we've got it!
You're suspicious of the players, and feel the approach is not what you would prescribe.

Maybe that's why some say Democrats have no plan. Even when there is a united effort made to take a strong stance on a weak area, we are criticized before the contents of what will be said are even known.

Don't worry Mad....the press and the Rethugs will criticize this group more than enough to make your day!
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:41 PM
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21. Your logic is wrong.
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 09:44 PM by Clarkie1
The "them" you speak of "not having to prove ourselves to" is the American people.

National Secuirty must be our #1 priority...and no, that does not mean we do not address other critical issues such as health care, education, and the environment.

We will never get a chance to win on those issues, however, unless we win on National Security. The've fooled us once and fooled us twice. We won't be fooled again.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:03 PM
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24. Do a search in quotes of the phrase I suggested.
And see just how far ahead of us they are on this issue.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:45 PM
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22. I know healthcare is important...
We need the whole health system changed. The RW has really screwed up the system. In order to do that, we MUST change the Congress in 2006. That is 9 mo. away. If Bush gets the upper hand on Security, we won't have a chance to change what is going on in medicare, medicaid, and help for Seniors. We all have been yelling ever since , and NOTHING has been done to help the elderly, sick and dying. ONLY< to fill the pockets of the pharmicudicals, and insurance companies.
Yes, we need change, but it only is going to happen WHEN we change congress. We have to fight them on their ground. Bush is going to try to bring his RW Senators and Congressmen in with "Keeping Americans Safe from Terriost"!!! When people are dying from lack of medical treatment, here in America, while all the $$$$ for medical is sent to Iraq.
One step at a time, Mad! I am a Senior too, and I can tell you it takes steps to get these people out of office so we can gain control, to help with the issues that are important to the American People.
I was caregiver for my Mom til she died a few years ago. I know, I know...and I am trying to help many people through the Perscription drug situation..Its a mess. One step at a time...9 months...9 months
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:34 PM
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26. Madfloridian
I am well aware of the severe problems with health care. I worked in the healthcare field for a long time. I don't have healthcare coverage. My sister is on Medicare and she is sick with worry over her drug bills etc. But I really don't think the Repubs are going to win on that issue...ever. But they keep winning on the security issue (I don't know why).
If you want to talk about healthcare then start your own thread.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:42 PM
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28. Start my own thread? I was just going to do that.
In fact I am putting some research together now on what people will be facing with new Medicare drug laws coming.



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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:24 PM
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30. Great!
I'll look forward to it. :)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 11:46 PM
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31. See how easy it is to avoid controversy?
Just tell people to leave your thread. Very easy indeed.

:-)

It cuts down on negativity and discussion.

:-)

Maybe I will try it sometime.

:-)
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:56 PM
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23. Even DU posters have been asking, "W It would be great here is the plan?".
Finally a chance to gain voters and work on the other issues that the Country needs resolved. It would be great to chair committees again.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:05 PM
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25. If you do the search I suggested...
Edited on Tue Mar-28-06 10:26 PM by madfloridian
you will see why I mention it. "real security"...google it.

Well, now you will have to go to about page 8 or 9 of the search because of a new press release...

Hey, I want to be safe, just like everyone else. But I have talked to some pretty helpless seniors lately, who are on the verge of just giving up and not taking needed medications.

I heard one Democrat mention this plan on TV the other morning...seniors can and will die from this thing.

So while our Dems are making us safer...why not talk about the sinful plan they have foisted on seniors.

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:41 PM
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27. Because our Dems can't do a thing until they schedule the hearings.
To Chair committees they have to get elected first. The helpless seniors need to have a voice. Right now they can't get a hearing.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:54 PM
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29. Searched and found great results.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060317-110209-4097r.htm
Snip>The Democratic memo calls on senators to seek the help of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), which is critical of Mr. Bush.
The IAVA political action committee has raised for $100,000 for Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans running for the House. It has endorsed all seven Democrats in that category who are running against House Republicans. An IAVA PAC spokesman said Republican candidates chose not to seek the group's endorsement. <snip
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