It appears that Schumer has an opinion re: Feingold's censure

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/03/31/reason-30452-to-give-to-ned-lamont/
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Schumer had some words for us about what he thought we bloggers should do, what he assumes you think (he was kind enough to tell us), and what he thinks of Feingold’s censure resolution.
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This is FULL of info that we need to know, IMO. Just read the post before dinner and I thought I'd share. Actually, Schumer disgusts me. Just my 2 cents.

Peace.:hi:

and a great read...thanks for the heads-up. Seismic shift?

"not let Bush get away with anything more!"-- but won't support the censure.

Schumer. Another follower.

Schumer is long on the side of strategy. Fine. But to criticize Feingold for having the guts to come out and say what he knows is true -- and leave him dangling in the breeze, because his timing wasn't right? Enough of that crap.

where he criticized Feingold for "having the guts to come out and say what he knows is true". He specifically criticized
him for the timing of his censure resolution, in that it replaced the Dubai Ports Deal on the front page. The Dubai Ports deal was hurting Bush badly and the censure resolution may have helped Bush with his supporters - the same people who were turning away from him because of the Dubai thing.

That seems a legitimate criticism IMO.

The NSA issue is on the front page too, and Schumer failed to endorse it. Why? Bad timing?

:applause:

Schumer explained why he didn't endorse Feingold's resolution. That's what this thread is about. And yes, he considered it bad timing and a distraction.

My post was about your putting words in Schumer's mouth.

get all eyes off that NSA. Not all eyes of course, Republicans were already writing the bills to make the crime legal and cover for bush. Press pundits were saying it was over, bush had "won" the warrantless spying debate.

So boy do I agree with you. Waiting was not the answer, the NSA thing would be swept under the rug. Had Russ just stood up and said what he thought about the spying it would get no attention. With censure attached it got some.

Hasn't exactly been on the top ten list of Talent and Skill set for these folks (as a party) ..

I think Schumer needs to be reminded of that .. but gosh, he so freaking arrogant I wonder what it will require for him to get it?

One more huge election loss for the party or two more ?

Maybe he'll get it by 2013? :shrug:

Donna Brazile and Gary Bauer

Chuck Schumer and J.D. Hayworth

What a nice clique of fascists!

Says it all. Give to Ned Lamont and show the DCCC who's got the power.

If you can do it tonight, before the end of the first quarter, your dollars will effectively count extra, because once first quarter results are in, other donors will be tempted to back Lamont if his fundraising looks strong.

I just sent in a contribution for Lamont.

and balances, the administration's allies in the democratic party MUST be defeated and the '06 primary elections is where it HAS to be done.

I said that I will no longer support him or any Dem who did not show up at that meeting, and that I may not voted Dem this November. I also said that Hillary was going to have a hell of a time getting the votes for Senator this year if many Dems don't show up at the polls in disgust over this spying and the War in Iraq.

Lastly, I asked the aide why Schumer doesn't mind Bush spying on me. He had no answer.

You wrote "I also said that Hillary was going to have a hell of a time getting the votes for Senator this year "

You mean Hillary will only get 70%, not 80%, of the votes?

If your post was ironic, I didn't get it. Otherwise it is contradicted by the facts, the popularity and the polls concerning Hillary Clinton in NY.

I can see a LOT of Democrats staying home in November. And the Hillary-hater Republicans will certainly not stay home. (That is what I meant - sorry for my inexact way of saying it.)

Clinton is a VERY popular Senator. She will win downstate, of course. The polls say she'll even win upstate NY where Bush won a substantial majority of votes in 2000 and 2004.

New Yorkers LOVE Hillary. The only reason they might stay home is that the election is not in doubt, not out of any disagreement, or even lack of affection, for Clinton. My feeling is that Hillary-haters will come out on election day, but there are too few of them in NY to matter.

I think you WISH that Hillary would get some kind of comeuppance in November. It's not going to happen: she'll win in a huge landslide. Spitzer will win the governor's office by a significant amount - but not by as large a margin as Hillary Clinton will be re-elected.

I live upstate, and hardly anyone up here likes Hillary. 1/2 of the people hate her because she is Hillary, and the other 1/2 are pissed at her war stance. Every time she has come up here, she has been met with protests, calling her a warmonger and taking her to task for her stance on the war. She has been protested in Albany, and either Glens Falls or Saratoga, I don't remember. None of these places is any bastion of liberalism, and I was surprised to see Dems protesting her. She may have BEEN very popular with NY, but I think she is losing support among these Dems - or at least the moderate upstate Dems I know, who hate this war. I cannot imagine NYC people being happy with her.

I do not wish Hillary will get comeuppance. I just think that she is playing a dangerous game being such a warmonger, and that, yes, many Dems may not bother coming out to vote for her unless Spitzer brings them out in droves. I meant that if the Democrats continue to act like Republicans, why should we bother even going out to vote on election day? Why bother?

that if progressives at the grass roots start hurting the DINO's across the board- the DSCC and the so called "leadership" will start taking us seriously.

Once a few of their poster boys go down- or even get a good fight that drains their resources, they'll think a little longer before being so dismissive.

If they're held accountable for enabling the far right, they'll think twice before crossing party lines (or hiding timidly when they're called to stand up for something).

As long as there aren't any consequences for destructive DINO behavior, the party will continue its long decline.