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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:14 PM
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About the McKinney video (no visible encounter)
A security video shows McKinney entering the building and moving around the metal detector and X-ray machine.

It does not show her encounter with the police officer, according to officials familiar with it.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/0404metmckinney.html

Sorry if this is a dupe. I just saw this.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:16 PM
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1. Anybody have a link to the video?
Thanks
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:19 PM
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4. I'll bet it never sees the light of day.
"In the interest of National Security" and all that crap.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 07:29 PM
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28. LOL, sad but true
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:17 PM
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2. It amazes me how quick some people here on DU are to dis McKinney.
Most other Dems get the benefit of the doubt because we know the media and the Republicans have it in for them.

But we believe any old bullshit that comes down the ol' corporate propaganda pipeline (this story started at fucking Drudge, of all places) when it has to do with Cynthia McKinney.

Maybe she's right about the racism. Sad to see it extends to both sides of the aisle.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:19 PM
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3. Hear! Hear! n/t
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 04:06 PM
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22. an overwhelming majority on DU support her - look at this poll
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=829786&mesg_id=829786

:bounce:

peace
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:26 PM
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5. Don't believe for a minute this is the way DU'ers feel. I would suggest
Edited on Tue Apr-04-06 01:26 PM by IsItJustMe
that the majority of these anti McKinney posts are made by instegators.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x838983
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:32 PM
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7. I agree. If it doesnt sound right, maybe it is because it is a LIE.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:38 PM
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10. You talking to me?
Clearly, there are real Dems that are buying the "McKinney punched a cop," line.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:53 PM
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13. I think most Dems see this for what it is. We have seen this same old
song and dance many times before used to discredit people.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:37 PM
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9. Like benburch?
Edited on Tue Apr-04-06 01:56 PM by tasteblind
The dude is clearly no instigator, but is advocating for arrest based on what evidence?

If it were Barney Frank, do you think people would be so quick to accept the judgement of Drudge and TheHill.com?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=832685&mesg_id=832685

Edit: Benburch clearly qualifies his statement by saying "if," it happened, so he's not accepting the story sight unseen.

But there's:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=832685&mesg_id=838546
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=838851&mesg_id=838980
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 04:11 PM
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24. Infiltrators...
Edited on Tue Apr-04-06 04:11 PM by radio4progressives
most of them... i agree..

or at least i hope you're right, and not the sentiment of most DU'rs.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:30 PM
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6. You said a mouthful....
I am shocked by the number of posters here who are using "code" words and phrases when talking about Ms. McKinney.

Yes, some of them I have thought to be trolls by their postings, but many I know to be Democrats.

DU sure isn't the place it used to be. :(
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:35 PM
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8. It's really sad.
Apparently everyone is supposed to drop to their knees the second a police officer addresses them.

If that's the plan, then this police state thing should go pretty smoothly. :eyes:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:44 PM
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11. I have had a lot of experience regarding police interaction
none of it positive.

But when a cop tells me to stop, I come to a screeching halt.
If he tells me to jump, I ask "how high"?

But then I have had a LOT (unfortunately) of experience in that particular arena.

I just want this affair to go away.
That's why I was happy to make this OP.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:58 PM
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14. I agree, but I don't like it.
Cops work for us, just like politicians do. I'm tired of watching my taxes get used to bully people around for no reason.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:59 PM
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16. It's disturbing how many high-count posters are clearly anti-McKinney
The repukes NEVER play by the rules yet these DU posters want her tar and feathered for what was at worst a very minor - and still unproven - disgression.
I back her 100 percent - why try to marganalize one of our best!?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 02:14 PM
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18. Actually, the more I look around, the more I realize that most DU'ers
support Cynthia McKinney and are waiting for the facts to come out. Good for them.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 05:51 PM
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25. But...but...she's SO well spoken!
:eyes:

Good call on the use of code words. Hang in there!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 07:31 PM
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30.  She is presumed innocent until proven guilty
But then again, so is the cop.

The thing I object to is the assumption that she is innocent, and the assumption that the cop was a racist, based on not much more than an affection for Rep. McKinney's politics.

Whether or not she speaks truth to power has no bearing on this case. She isn't accused of hitting the cop with the truth.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:46 PM
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12. The cop should be investigated
Why is this white male cop being protected? How did he get his job -- how long has he worked at the Capital and why doesn't he know ALL congressional Reps by sight? From the beginning this has smelled fishy.

I must say that I've been able to add to my ignore list -- which makes reviewing the really important DU threads much easier.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 01:58 PM
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15. Is the cop a white male?n/t
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 02:03 PM
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17. yes that's what McKinney said -- she said he was a white male
the cops who pulled Cindy Sheehan out of the gallery were also white males.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 07:25 PM
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27. Cop could be a Freeper!
and he could have staged the entire incident, this is why his name has not been released to the press.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 07:22 PM
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26. Here is my argument against the scumbag capitol police
My Post
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 03:32 PM
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19. "There is no requirement for any member of Congress to have an ID
... and there is no requirement for us to have a pin, which is our identifying pin ..."

Cong. Sheila Jackson Lee this morning on Democracy Now.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/04/1419259
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 03:57 PM
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20. I think Cong. Lee's comments are helpful.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 04:05 PM
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21. Wow!
Well, there you go. Chew on that, everyone who has been criticizing Ms. McKinney for bringing this upon herself for "not wearing the proper ID/pin."

So let's see, members of Congress are not required to pass through metal detectors and are not required to wear ID/pins as a means of identification by Capitol police.

That's two of the arguments used against Ms. McKinney gone out the window.... ;)
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 04:10 PM
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23. where is the link to the video?
this is the article.. :shrug:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 07:37 PM
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31. AJC, no friend of McKinney's, says there is a video
A security video shows McKinney entering the building and moving around the metal detector and X-ray machine.

It does not show her encounter with the police officer, according to officials familiar with it.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/0404metmckinney.html

If they have one video, I am sure that they have other videos.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 07:31 PM
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29. When you say it doesn't show her encounter
I take it to mean that this doesn't mean the encounter doesn't happen (both sides say it happened), but rather that it couldn't be seen on camera. No suprise there, although I expect some DU'ers would suggest there's some conspiracy.
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