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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:18 PM
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So is Al Gore looking at John Kerry beating bush* in the latest polls
and thinking, "WHY THE HELL DID I QUIT?!??!!"

How historical would that have been if Gore had stayed in and trounced bush* like it looks Kerry can do?
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:21 PM
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1. I love Al Gore. Maybe he can be Secretary of State.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:31 AM
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27. Too late, now. Gore endorsed the wrong candidate to get a place
in the cabinet.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:24 PM
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2. It helps when the media annoints one candidate and tears down another.
Kerry may fall in the polls against Bush when the media catches up to him...
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D G Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:14 PM
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11. "media annointing" - sort of like when Gore endorsed Dean?
The annointing didn't "take" then - I doubt it will "take" for Kerry. Or have you already conceded Dean's defeat?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:05 PM
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19. No, not at all. Gore endorsing Dean is not as powerful as a concerted
media effort to bring down a candidate that promised to break up media monopolies.

I'm not conceeding defeat, are you?

Regarding Gore, he endorsed Dean because he and Dean shared the same views on the war and domestic issues.
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RUexperienced Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:24 PM
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3. Al Gore has the worst political instincts of anyone in politics
Wasn't it just last month at this time that Gore was endorsing the invincible Howard Dean?

But now that Howard's boat has taken on water, you say that Gore should have run himself?
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:27 PM
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5. Could Al Gore have endorsed Dean as a political maneuvre?
To take Dean out so Kerry could be the candidate? The political power brokers did not want Dean because they know? he can't beat bush* but Kerry can. Conventional wisdom does count for something.
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mccormack98 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:22 PM
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14. No - I think Gore likes Dean.
Both Dean and Gore are outsiders who agree on Iraq and other issues. But there may be bad blood between Gore and Kerry. Kerry may have been part of the establishment movement to discourage Gore from running (you may recall that in Nov. 2002 Mass. Congressman Barney Frank urged Gore not to run.)
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:50 PM
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23. Gore is an outsider? Two term vice president, son of a Senator,
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 10:51 PM by BillyBunter
4 term Representative, two-term Senator Al Gore is now an outsider? That's almost as pathetically funny as Tom Harkin, who has been working in Washington since 1969, talking about 'Washington insiders circling the wagons' against the mighty Howard Dean. Christ, this place is frightening.
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:34 AM
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28. Umm, did you see Gore's campaign in 2000?
That election was Gore's to lose . . . and he lost it. Screw the popular vote win. Gore should have won that thing by 5 points, not lost in the electoral college.

Gore is a mediocre candidate with less than mediocre political skills.
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mccormack98 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:05 PM
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9. Dean said yesterday on Meet the Press that ...
... Gore's endorsement caused the field and media to perceive Dean as the prohibitive favorite. That brought on an onslaught by the candidates and media.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:29 AM
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26. Hi mccormack98!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:24 PM
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4. Al Gore quit because the party told him to take a hike.
Which is probably a factor in why he endorsed Dean, who they are also trying their damndest to squash.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:29 PM
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7. great minds think alike..
I posted my comment simultaneously with yours... see below. :hi:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:28 PM
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6. He quit because the Dem leadership told him to take a hike.
They told him that they wouldn't back him, and that he hadn't a chance in hell of winning. Why do you think I loathe any candidate they are pushing me to like???
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 07:29 PM
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8. Gore for SCOTUS
talk about irony. I'd also like Clinton for Secretary of State or some cabinet position, for no reason other than to drive the Freepers fucking crazy.
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:13 PM
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10. How could Gore be on the SCOTUS
When he isn't even a lawyer?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:14 PM
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12. you don't have to be a lawyer to be on the SCOTUS
a president can appoint a garbage man if he wants.
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nancyharris Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:21 PM
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13. or a garbage woman eom
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:02 PM
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17. Now now... be nice to Thomas. eom
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mccormack98 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 08:28 PM
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15. Gore has made his peace ...
But he'd be outpolling the field right now if he ran. Gore always outpolls the field.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:32 PM
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16. If I were the nominee and Al Gore came asking for something
Edited on Mon Feb-02-04 09:37 PM by John_H
I'd say, "Well, we'll see how hard you work. Otherwise you can go ask Howard Dean for a cabinet position, Mr. Vice President."
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:04 PM
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18. Actually, I knew Gore would be Kerry's toughest opponent
He was the prohibitive favorite before Dec. 2002.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:20 PM
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20. I suspect what Al Gore is thinking
is that if he'd picked Kerry instead of Lieberman as his running mate he'd be running for re-election now.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:24 PM
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21. i think you are right
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:30 PM
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22. All this Bush "trouncing" talk is so pathetic. Braggadocio, based
on nothing. Pretty much like GWB's way of talking... No connection with reality.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 11:06 PM
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24. Gore would have been ridiculed and cast off by the dunce public
It was a smart move in the LR to not run.

Gore would have know that EVERYTHING he did and said would have been seen as "sour grapes" and political. His message would be overshadowed by a media obsessed with having another gore v bush show down.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:22 AM
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25. The DLC would have skewered him instead of Dean
They didn't want Gore running. Hindsight is 20/20, but could you imagine a Gore campaign with the Dean/Trippi fundraising? A Gore/Dean ticket would have been amazing.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 10:34 AM
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29. YES! OF COURSE!
That's so damn freaking frustrating! Al Gore could've easily won again. Damn.
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