So...does everyone in BRITAIN know what PNAC is?

Next to a story about today's revelations, the BBC Web page is showing links to past related stories. In this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4386076.stm analysis, the author includes this helpful info:

"{Libby} was one of a group of right-wing Republicans, known as the neo-conservatives, who reacted against the liberal agenda of the late 20th Century and founded something called The Project for the New American Century.

Basically this called for a huge increase in US power and influence around the world and it has been seen as the origin of many of the policies of the Bush team.

The current case concerns Iraq, one of those policies. "

So, if you live in the right country, and have a press that actually looks for its own stories, you might actually know something about what's going on in the world?

A couple of years ago he was asked about PNAC and he said it was an internet conspiracy theory.

:P

I just read this thread and asked my b/f (who has to listen to my endless rants) if he knew what PNAC was - he didn't. So explained it to him (probably again). But, I think he is more concerned with what is going on with the Food Channel and if I ask him again tomorrow, he probably still won't remember. btw - he's still a reliable Dem vote tho. :)

I drilled it over and over enough that she finally started catching on as to how important it was.

before the '04 election, I had gotten into so many arguments, that I quit going to parties where drinking was involved (he has a side business to cook for parties so he had to go)... any way.. at a couple of them, politics eventually came up and he recounted the discussions to me and he did hold his ground of defending Kerry and explaining why Bush should not be re-elected pretty well. He's not all that interested in the details, but my rants do seem to sink in and he picks and chooses, but still.... a good Dem... he even attends a local Democratic party event with me here and there when I know he would rather be hanging out with his pals.

but it's the same problem on both sides of the Atlantic; smart people find out, everybody else obsesses about the latest 'Pop Idol' contest and soap stars.

We have the best (in my view) news organisation in the world but most of the people I know - educated, well-travelled people too - are woefully uninformed about anything outside the UK, yet many of them know who's winning whatever reality shows are on at the time. I find this extremely frustrating, but then I obsess about politics, don't watch "reality TV" and have no interest in celebrities (honestly, they're just people who get paid to do a job like anyone else, and it doesn't make them better or more clever or give their opinions any more credence than other people's).

No wonder I spend so much time on DU. Sometimes I just want to throttle people and yell "wake up and pay attention!"

I'm in UK and never met anyone who had heard of PNAC, but they have talked about it on Newsnight (BBC) a couple of times. Greg Palast has done a few really good segments over the last few years RE PNAC, election irregularties etc...

The first I heard of PNAC was on DU during the buildup to war in 2002 / 03. I think it was from one of those Crisis Papers guys.

Basically most people here dont care about anything that doesn't affect them in a completely direct/obvious way and tend to think that anything on the internet is a conspiracy theory. Sound familiar?

Welcome to DU!! :toast: