If you are voting today, do not forget Dennis Kucinich

If you want to remember today as the day you voted for:

* A man who voted against the Iraq War Resolution, and led 126 fellow House members to do the same;

* A man who voted against the Patriot Act;

* A man who stands for true health care for all;

* A man who stands for cleaning house in the Pentagon;

* A man whose campaign has put out the most substantive and damning report on the missing WMD issue to be seen in this race (see: http://kucinich.us/DennisKucinichWasRight.pdf)

* A man who is formulating a national grassroots progressive movement that will be in place long after this race is run;

* A man whose progressive record on jobs, education, the environment and so much more is unimpeachable...

...if you want to remember today as a day you voted for the best man, then go out today and vote for Dennis Kucinich. The planet you save will be your own.

William Rivers Pitt
Press Secretary
Dennis Kucinich for President

I heard him on Democracy Now yesterday, but he sounded so down and tired :shrug:

especially running up to a day like today. He's fine. :)

I don't know how his staff can keep up with him. Where will DK be when the returns come in? Still in NM/AZ or onto WA state?

for the Craig Kilborn show, and then for Larry King Live.

Must see TV, yo.

Kewl. :bounce:

Yo yo ;-), are you having a fun primary day?

Its taped earlier in the day, is it not?

But I'll watch for DK. :)

Thanks for lending your voice to Dennis's progressive vision for America and the world. I know karma doesn't pay the bills, but you have lots of good vibes coming your way for taking on this noble endeavor.

Kucinich 2004! For people. For peace. For America... and the world.

Dennis' courageous and powerful policy proposals are no match for the overwhelming argument of "electablity". DK tells the truth too much for the American consumer. We can't handle the truth.

Win or lose, we win, because we are building an army across the country. I like our chances.

but have become disappointed and cynical about "democracy", and the co-option of the Democratic Party by neo liberal economists, and especially about the co-option of the process by "electabilityists".

I know it is easy to get down and discouraged (it happens to me a lot to). I find that it helps to a) check out some DK speeches online they always cheer me up and get the fire back and b) read posts from the great DK supporters on this board and let their positive attitudes and the hard work of guys like Will Pitt inspire you. Its hard but giving up gets us nowhere.
Scott

I saw Democracy Now also and I was impressed by the interview! I am not voting today, but I will be soon enough.

I will continue to support Dennis J. Kucinich no matter what.

Thank God Dennis has you, Will Pitt, as his Press Secretary. Thank you and I too have great hope for Dennis Kucinich! :D



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:thumbsup: I will probably vote for Kucinich in the primary when CT votes in March right before I, once again, dis-enroll from the DEM party ...

Kucinich is a class act.

Old Neutron played a part in a conservative movement. He never even ran for pres. His guidelines for slandering liberals are standard fare for many of the fRight wingers dominating TV and radio today. I know, he had help and plenty of think tank bucks, But Dennis is winning hearts and pulling in bucks from Joe Twelve pack.

and somebody's got to tell it. DK is not a doomsayer - he has solutions & a message of hope. Soon the other Dems will realize that the truth is only unpopular when there's only one leader with the courage to tell it. Until then, it's up to us to be on the side of truth.

Winner or not, aren't you glad he's in the race?

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Cheers.

Very few candidates for President get the nomination. What they CAN do is use their platform to influence those of the front-runners.

Kucinich needs to stay in it until someone else agrees with him on NAFTA and WTO. This is the issue THAT WILL WIN the election for the Democrats.

If he can influence the platform of others, he will have done his job.

Beyond this, we could see Dennis run for Senator at some point. A good run in the presidential election will help him along.

Why? I'm certain it couldn't be because Dennis has FORCED it to be an issue during the debates, has it?

I find an interesting correlation between this direction in the debates and candidate campaigns (more toward progressive populism and away from "moderation" or "centrism"), and the recent NYT editorial calling for the exclusion of Kucinich and Sharpton from the debates.

This is evidence, IMHO, that the establishment masters are not pleased about the possibility of more people waking up from the "American Dream". Imagine what DK could do with an INCREASED visibility as the campaign wears on and the field narrows (and perhaps more people who actually support his ideas vote for him rather than the candidate they deem most "electable") -- not to mention an opportunity to address the convention.

I love DK more tha life itself, but you couldn't pay me enough to support the "best man" strategy. Why? Because in this time, in this election, being best on the issues doesn't make you the best candidate. When the planet is at stake, the best man is the man who can save it from George W. Bush.

You'd get fired if you admitted it, but Kucincih has a zero percent chance of winning the either nomination or the General election.
That inarguable fact is why my conscience won't let me "vote my conscience."

if it allows one to vote for a man who justifies using depleted uranium weapons?

War criminality can be reduced to "one issue"?

What about personal character, foreign policy, globalism, energy policy, all of which dovetail off of this "one issue"?

Thou shalt triangulate.

That's one issue.

Bush is not the disease, Bush is merely the symptom of a much larger problem rooted in national arrogance, consumerism, jingoism and militarism. Who will be the candidate that proposes a radical departure from this disease that afflicts us and clouds our judgement?

The only one who has proven throughout his life that he is up to this task is Dennis Kucinich. All of the other candidates (with the exception of Sharpton) -- Kerry, Clark, Edwards, Dean, Lieberman -- only propose slowing the car we're all travelling in down from 110 mph to 55 mph, but keeping the steering wheel still pointed at the cliff. Dennis is the only one who actually proposes the radical idea of turning away from the cliff.

If you want to be ruled by your fear and vote in the false hope that one election will solve the vast majority of what ails us, then that's your decision. If you want to look your fear straight in the eye and vow to fight and cure not just the acute symptoms, but the disease itself, then you're never "compromising". You are instead doing the most that you can to advance a vision of a positive future.

the light is not obscured to all.

Electing one of the 'electable' will treat our symptoms.

Will this country die of the disease before voters have the courage of their convictions and will elect someone to cure it?

If only this meme would catch hold....

Dennis is the only candidate that puts the issues above politics. We idealists bow to his honesty, consistency and fortitude.

--where's the harm in voting for him to advance his issues? Or are you afraid if you do that he can win the primary? Whassup with that?

than the two-percent "fringe" the media paints us out to be.

If you're hoping for the day that somebody like Kucinich has a good shot at the White House, today is the day to plant those seeds.

The primaries are a fine time to make democracy meaningful by supporting who you actually support, as opposed to trying to outguess who other people will probably support.

It deserves more respect than the blackjack table.

I like that. :)

I'm not counting cards, trying to figure out what cards might come next. I know Kucinich has the goods, and I trust most of my fellow Americans to find that out once he's the nominee. :)

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My husband (& I) hope he is on the ballot and viable March 16 when we have our Illinois primary.

There is something wrong with America when a voice and vision like DK's doesn't have a bigger voice or a bigger audience. It isn't everyday you come across a politician as smart and as visionary as DK. His ideas are smart and sensible and should be recognized and heard!!! He is the man!!!!!!

He is the solution to what ailes us, not part of the problem.

Sprinfgield? Where is that? :silly: Check your profile lol

Show the party leaders which direction you want the party to move! Vote Kucinich! :D

...to keep this message "kicked" until the last caucus ends or poll closes tonight?

We'll have to wait and see, I suppose.

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If you want to portray it as "selling out", then that's your problem. Some of us realize WHY he did what he did, and find no fault with it.

Of course, many of us who do realize why he did what he did also realize that although we support Dennis with all our heart and soul, we also need to vote in the GE for whoever gets the nomination -- even if it isn't Dennis.

as a Dean supporter, you CANNOT talk about someone who sticks to his guns...Dean is just as flip-floppy as anyone I've ever seen

And, in reality, there was NO ONE else that Kucinich should have given his support to...ESPECIALLY Dean

While I am not as progressive as Kucinich, what has impressed me more than anything is his integrity and consistency. Everything he has said matches his voting record. I have yet to hear or see him or his supporters have to resort to double talk or spin.

Dennis will get at least one vote in Missouri today.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

Glad to see that even though you're not a 100% match with his policies, that you have the honor and respect to recognize his integrity and consistency. :)

Thanks for supporting him in the MO primary.

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Welcome to DU!

:hi: :hi: :hi:

:toast:

I'll be thinking of you as you cast your vote for Dennis today!

Kanary

I'm hoping for a Missouri Surprise for Kucinich today. I stood for Dennis in the Iowa caucuses--no regrets except for lacking more of us.

Cuz I am getting whiplash.

No snow or ice will keep me away from my appointed round. :-)

He really does represent the interests of the public. Good luck Dennis.

Rather than trying to guess the winner, why not vote on the issues!

we hold our caucus here in Maine on Sunday and of course i will be supporting Dennis.

that other people get to vote today and I don't. x( *pout*

But I am sending up all the positive karma your way that I can muster. And I've already nagged the people I know who live in today's primary states. Got a yes and a couple of maybes. :-)

Thanks Will....good reminder.
Dennis is our only hope...and its not just my opinion either...

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Will be watching him tonite on Kilburn.....

we were bummed here in NAZ he didn't make it up...330+ days of sunshine and the day he coulda come...we have S*N*O*W
sigh.....go figure....

:hug:
Peace
DR
Dennis :yourock:

choice in order to keep my least favorite from gaining delegates, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

This is one of the proudest days of my life; I mean that.

When you vote your conscience, you never regret it.

Who knows, at this point, Kerry or some other "socially acceptable" Dem may be coasting toward the nomination, and I will vote for whoever wins that prize in the GE. I think we will win. I just got another e-mail from a Portland friend who said that she and everyone at her job is psyched for voting Bush out of office.

HOWEVER, this is the primary season. If the mass of voters have bought the "electability" line, then Kerry or Whoever will win the nomination with or without your vote, and you can vote your conscience to make sure that progressives make an impact.

So far, the conventional "wisdom" is that since DK has been getting single digit percentages of the vote, we may all safely ignore him. If progressives buy this line and continue not voting for Dennis, they will only be validating the DLC line about progressive candidates having no appeal. They will be cutting their own throats.

Now imagine a result like this: Kerry 30%, Dean 20%, Clark 15%, Edwards 15%, Kucinich 10%, Sharpton 5%. Lieberman 5%.

If Dennis breaks into the double digits, the pundits will have to sit up and take notice. And it could happen, if all the people who say "I love Dennis, but..." would just step into the booth and vote for him.

Many of us want to see real change. If we vote for "the guy everyone else is voting for" in the one election where we really should be voting our conscience, then we have no right to complain when "the guy everyone else is voting for" ignores our interests.

I'll be caucusing for DK on March 2, even if I'm the only one doing so in precinct, which is unlikely, given the high number of Wellstone bumperstickers and yard signs in my precinct.

I like your thoughts on the safety of voting for progressive ideals. I agree this is the only way we will get the idea into the mainstream that liberal ideals are acceptable to and advocated by more than 3% of the voting public!

I want NUMBERS behind the progressive candidate who works WITHIN the Democratic party.

my heart and soul are traveling along with you both. Keep it up, we will get the message out yet. You are doing a wonderful job and I am proud of each and every one of you working to keep him going. Let me know if you all are ever anywhere near Kansas, it would be worth a long drive to see Dennis speak in person.

...just for the hell of it. And to send a message.

But does anyone really believe he could beat Bush in the general election? I think that's just pure delusion.

Not delusion, just recognition of the fact that people, the vast majority of them, are sick to death of politics and the scum that keep screwing us from DC.

Kucinich's history shows him to be a man of integrity -- a far cry from the contortionists you see running, trying to please every imaginable voter. He votes his conscience and stands up for it. He doesn't try to weasel out of what he believes in.

Here in Texas, I think that would sell like ice-cold lemonade in August. His backbone is ON TOP OF the appeal he has for just his stance on the WTO and NAFTA alone. Add both of those to healthcare reform and you start to see why he could really do a number on all the 'experts' regarding his 'elecatbility'.

I could honestly see Texas voting for the Dem candidate for Pres for the first time in ... how many years?

Yes. He's not talking about pie-in-the-sky-when-you-die, and he's not talking about cancelling capitalism and putting everyone to work in a rice paddy or something else over-the-top. He's talking about doing sensible, popular things. Things the vast majority of people can and do relate to positively. Healthcare. Cutting waste. Shifting the tax burden. Moving the retirement age back to 65. Reducing the need for abortion. Enforcing fair trading. Giving us our Constitution back. Pulling the corporations out of the driver's seat.

Yes, he'd beat Smirk. He'd demolish Smirk.

...for Repug political advertisements. I don't deny that he is principled and uncompromising, but that and 50 cents gets you a cup of coffee, not the White House.

Have you read this priceless DK quote?

"Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self."

WTF is he talking about?

I'd love to see the RNC put up ads about silly nonsense, while Kucinich campaigns on:

THE LIES THAT LED TO THE ILLEGAL INVASION OF IRAQ
jobs
healthcare
free trade vs. fair trade
corporate handouts & tax evasion
CEO overcompensation
TRUE commitment to addressing environmental concerns
educating holistically rather than 'teaching to the test'

I'd LOVE to see that fight.

See, what he's saying is that matter (body) and spirit are not necessarily separate things. They are all intertwined. Everything in the universe is connected, and there is nothing that happens without consequence.

Put in another way, look at the concept of environmentalism. The European (extended to American) concept of the earth has always been that it is a resource to be exploited. Native Americans, however, believe that the earth is sacred. Whatever harm we do to the earth, we actually also do to ourselves -- because the earth is the source of all of our life and sustenance. We are not somehow "above" or "separate" from it -- but are just a small part of something much greater.

Does this make a little more sense to you, or is there still a "disconnect in your connectivity"?

What matters is that he sounds like a Martian. And the Repugs would rake him over the coals with such statements. That's all I'm saying. He's a good man, if slightly wacko. But he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of beating Bush, so a vote on him is a wasted vote IMHO.

and highly intellegent to me. I know what you are saying but there are also a lot of people who would benefit from having to figure him out. He speaks plainly enough most of the time for the folks who do not want to hear that.

There are a lot of people who can relate to what he says. New Agers, Buddhists, Christians, psychologists, and physicists just to name a few. They might use different terminology, but they recognise the underlying concepts right away.

Quantum electrodynamics. (No, really, he is--see Feynman's QED)

Who referred to Kucinich as "the only candidate whose speeches have to be annotated" or something to that effect?

What usually ends up killing Dems is that they back away from "kooky" positions and try to appear "moderate". This, in turn, makes them look like wafflers who won't stand up for things they TRULY believe in.

Besides, what's so "kooky" about a full-employment economy, single-payer universal healthcare, a college education for all that want it, and liberty and justice for all?

These things used to be part of the Democratic Party platform 30 years ago. Of course, that was before we became more concerned with "how we'd look" to prospective Republicans rather than whether or not we CARED about our core constituencies.

is delusional. Period.

Dennis Kucinich is the only one apart from Sharpton who's offering any. The rest give with the left hand while they take with the right.

You say you want change? Ok. How much change? And when?

It's up to us--nobody is going to do it unless we DEMAND it.

- paying for the ruling elites to skim and pocket 30c off the top of every healthcare dollar,

- paying for kids to be kept in Iraq indefinitely, killing and being killed, coming home in boxes or in pieces,

- paying for 'soft genocide' against Black and Brown people, and an ever-growing prison-industrial complex with its echos of Nazi-era slave labor,

- looking over your shoulder everywhere you go lest you transgress some unwritten 'patriot' act rule,

- go on being second-class citizens if you're among the one-in-ten who are LGB


...then stop with the mindreading and the tactical voting and vote for the candidate with proven, rock-solid integrity and the clear vision of a better tomorrow: Dennis Kucinich. He really is The One.

Voted for DK thismorning...

:hi:
How ya doing? Haven't seen you around for awhile...

:hug:
DR

Yes, I've been on the shelf awhile, so I was getting some work done. I'll mail you if I can find your address again.

What are you doing here? You're supposed to be working! :( :( :)

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Last I knew, I got the impression that you were
backing Kerry.
I am SO happy to hear of your support of DK!
He is the ONLY candidate that has acted on issues
that MATTER!!!
I am so happy to hear that you are on the DK team!!!
YES,
YES,
YES!

BHN

Be sure to keep us informed of DK media appearances...
I for one, do not turn on my television most days. Can't.
I am not familiar with the show mentioned so please do tell.
BHN

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You'll love it here!

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