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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:14 PM
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HOW MANY DIED TODAY? THEY'RE NOT JUST NUMBERS: A LETTER FROM NAM
As the Iraq death count runs into the thousands it's easy to think only in numbers. For anyone still stupid enough to be pro-war, however, it gets sticky to realize that each of those digits is someone's spouse, father, mother, son, daughter or friend. Here's a letter I recently received in private messages. Does current top leadership remind you of the big brass in this letter?

If you ever wondered why John Kerry became an anti-war activist after Nam, read this and wonder no more.

Hey, JG, I just thought I would share this with you.

I was stationed on the Qua Viet with 2nd Marine. The river ran parallel with the "line", a couple clicks south of Ia Drang. It was red hot and rocking.

We did river patrol, long-range recon and target extrication (basically banging targets, supplied by the cretins in Intel, who never knew what was going on.) We went through plenty of personnel. It took a certain kind of crazy to make it there, where we had no time to think, as instinct ruled.

After being wounded when we lost a boat, I went home to Houston from the Naval Hospital in Yokusuka, Japan, to get better, before going back again. By '72 things were so bad most of us thought that when we finally bought it, useless leadership at the top would be to blame, rather than the gook on the other end of the sights.

The Trickster had appointed John Warner as Secretary of the Navy. This was bigger news than it should have been because he was dating Elizabeth Taylor who just happened to still be married to Richard Burton. When I was recovering, I saw him on the TV and figured he was another pompous ass.

After they sent me back, you know how it was, no news and very little mail from the outside. The only current events we got were guys back from leave or R&R. Or NFGs, but nobody listened to them.

They were attaching us to a new boat, called a Nasty Boat because it was little more than water-borne Death. There were only a very few of these built, thank God. Muscular and twin-screwed, those boats were crazier than we were.

After a couple days on the river shooting water buffaloes and anything else that moved, we got word that SecNav (Warner) was coming to turn over the keys to our new boat. After nearly three years in country, you can guess how impressed we were with that grand-standing mountain of crap.

So I got busy bringing the guys up to speed on good ol' Liz-whipped Warner.

Keep in mind that uniforms and grooming were not our strong suit. We wore our hair long and black, for obvious reasons. My uniform was jungle shorts, tee shirt, bandanna and Converse AllStars. When we were at camp I generally carried a sawed off, 12 gage, Ithaca pump-shotgun. It spends retirement leaning in a corner of my bedroom.

This boat was super-secure. Admittance was at the pilot's (me) discretion- with orders to shoot to kill if proper protocol wasn't followed.

Well, here they came. Transports with guards, jeeps with junior officers and heavier brass, including ComWestPac and SecNav John Warner, in dress whites, no less.

It was fucking hilarious and outrageous, to us.

So they all pile out on the beach and fall in. You know how it goes, lining up just right so they can lick appropriate ass as it goes by.

There were only two of us on board, me and a Gunner, the rest of the guys were hanging back on the beach. I think a few might have been in their hammocks. We didn't much give a shit.

As ComWestPac walked to the bottom of the gangway, I could tell he was pissed. They had asked us to clean up, etc. Well, to hell that. He knew me from giving us medals before. Warner was also there to give us a Presidential Unit Citation. We weren't thrilled about that either because of the 9 guys getting the medal many were dead. I don't like to think in numbers because every one of those guys was a brother. We already had so much hardware to pin on, it just didn't matter anymore. We wanted our buddies back.

So ComWestPac scowls at me and requests permission to board.

Tom- "Permission granted."

ComWestPac walks up gangway and then SecNav comes prancing up without a word.

Tom- walking down gangway- "Halt who goes there?"

CWP- shouting- "Sailor that is SecNav."

Tom- 1/2 way down gangway and drawing down- "Halt or I'll shoot."

CWP- running down gangway and screaming in Tom's left ear-
"Sailor, that is SecNav!"

Tom- trusty Ithaca focused on SecNav's sternum- screams, "I don't care if he is fucking Elizabeth Taylor! Where's the boarding protocol?"

Sometimes I wish we had shot that prissy bastard.


And that Citation? It is with all the rest of them, midway of a span under the San Francisco Bay Bridge. On a clear day, I can see the bridge from my parking deck.

May those medals Rest in Peace for eternity, like the bravest guys that ever lived - my guys.

I can barely see the keys as I type this.

Some things will never change.



CURRENT LEADERSHIP IS WORSE THAN NIXON! PLEASE SIGN AND FORWARD THIS PETITION TO BRING THEM HOME DU! WE ARE ALL THEY HAVE!
http://www.johnkerry.com/action/deadline/?sc=e.20060418
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:19 PM
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1. a kick for the guys that didn't make it back
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:28 PM
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2. And a kick for all who did. And for that matter...
for each and every underdog soldier in the night.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:32 PM
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4. welcome aboard tom
It brought tears to my eyes when I first read this and then once agsin tonight... I hope I honored the living and our brothers in the big beyond with proper accord.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:30 PM
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3. Some things speak for themselves & require no comment
so I'll just K & R.

(thank you for posting this)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:37 PM
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5. i don't want praise or glory... please sign the Kerry petition...

and EMAIL IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! THIS EX-SAILOR DIDN'T SPILL HIS GUTS FOR OUR AMUSEMENT!

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:10 AM
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8. sorry for yelling but please send it the petition to everyone
save a life or two in Iraq, if you care for our guys... sorry, I mean "troops" we're an equal opportunity killer this time around.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:23 AM
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11. I got "page does not exist" when I clicked your link

Page Not Found
You have requested a page that does not exist. Check the Web address
(URL) that you entered or return to the homepage.

otherwise I would have signed.

Peace to you Jeff,

Hekate

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:53 PM
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6. NOT a happy story, JG. Not at all. How good it would be, though,
if for one 30-minute nightly news cast, CBS or NBC or ABC -- you name it -- could devote some time to this angle of the history of war and conflict in the U.S. I'm not predicting this will happen, far from it, but it would change a few more minds if it got some airplay.

And an interesting insight into John Warner there, too. He's Chair of Armed Services now, isn't he?

I've already signed the petition and am on a web-based politickin' hot streak these days.

Thank you for this direct-send email DU post!

Keep on rockin' in the free world.

OC
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:15 AM
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7. welcome aboard Old Crusoe
This is day FOUR of my ten-day Peace Vigil... Big John delivers the petition in six more days, I gather from his email... only six more days to spread the word... keep up the good work!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:57 AM
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9. kick for the guys who lived through it but still die a little every day...
this illegal war on lies goes on...
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 02:23 AM
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10. Thank you for sharing this
Big John Rocks!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:03 AM
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13. HERE'S SOME NEW REVISED AND COMPLETE WORDS TO BIG JOHN
(Big John Big Bad John)
Every mornin' in Senate you could see him arrive
He stood six foot six and weighed 2-45
Kinda broad at the shoulder and narrow at the hip
And everybody knew you didn't give no lip to Big John
(Big John Big John) Big Bad John (Big John)
Nobody seemed to know why John hated war
or why he cared so much about the poor
When it came to America he sure wasn't shy
If Senate crooks spoke at all they'd just said hi - to Big John
Somebody said he served in Vietnam
Where during a fire-fight, his boat got in a jam
And a crashin' blast from a huge right hand
Sent a Viet Cong fellow to the Promised Land - Big John
(Big John Big John) Big Bad John (Big John)
That was the day John showed he had a spine
When a big gun jammed and men started cryin'
Sailors were prayin' and hearts beat fast
And everybody thought they'd breathed their last - cept John
Through the fire and the smoke of this man made hell
Walked a giant of a man that the sailors knew well
Grabbed a rifle and jumped ashore with a groan
And like a giant oak tree he just stood there alone - Big John
(Big John Big John) Big Bad John (Big John)
With courage and heart, he took his best shot
And ended that threat, right there on the spot
Twenty men were spared from a watery grave
Leaving one on the beach, left there to save - Big John
Big John wasn't wearing a bullet-proof vest
Then came that rumble way down in his chest
His big heart broke though he'd done his best
Anf everybody knew it was the end of that mess - for Big John
(Big John Big John) Big Bad John (Big John)
Now they never reopened that worthless case
They just pinned on a medal and spit in his face
These few words are written there in the sand
On this beach lies the heart of a big big man - Big John
(Big John Big John) Big Bad John (Big John Big John) Big Bad John
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:31 AM
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12. Oh Gods. We tried to make it not happen again. We tried.
:cry: Who could have imagined this country could go down an even worse path than Vietnam?

Well, we just have to keep trying.

In the meantime, thanks for your service, and thanks for sharing this tonight. :hug:

Peace.

Hekate
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:05 PM
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14. to answer my own question...
at least four people from America died today... April could easily become the deadliest month ever in Iraq.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:06 PM
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15. Kicked and Recommended!
nice one, JG
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:19 PM
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16. "some things never change" especially for us old Vietnam vets, huh neil?
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 06:19 PM by Jeffersons Ghost
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 07:00 PM
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17. yes, and it has made watching this fiasco in Iraq all the worse
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:05 AM
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18. I just re0tried my link.... I don't get what Hekate was saying
When I click the link it comes up just fine and leads to an active Kerry petition... so I'll ask you NEIL... Does my link only work for me for some odd reason? Please try it and let me know before I post day 6 in my 10 day peace vigil.
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UnwillingSkeptic05 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 09:31 AM
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19. Signed.
and bumped.
No more American dead for corporate profits.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:21 AM
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20. thanks UnwillingSkeptic05
and welcome to DU
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Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:08 AM
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21. Signed
Edited on Sun Apr-23-06 11:10 AM by Agony
Veteran's across America need our support. Most people have NO idea what it is like to live every day with PTSD, or even know what PTSD is. The major point here is that we need to get out of Iraq now. There are plenty of intelligent people in the military who can figure out how to get us out quickly and allow the political process to then provide the Iraqi people with the security they need that the administration failed to provide to them. The problem is that the F* in the * adminstration won't let them do their job. I get steaming mad having to deal with what my country has wrought!

NYC 29th April 2006... be there

(tried to recommend, i don't have enough posts
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