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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:42 PM
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I just lost a lot of respect for Sen. Kennedy. Arctic Royalty LTD Oil
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 06:03 PM by Pryderi
Kennedy faces fight on Cape Wind
Key lawmakers oppose his bid to block project

By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | April 27, 2006

WASHINGTON -- As record oil prices turn attention to the need for renewable fuels, momentum is building in Congress to buck Senator Edward M. Kennedy's bid to block the proposed Cape Cod wind energy project, potentially reviving efforts to construct the sprawling windmill farm in Nantucket Sound.

The chairman and the top Democrat on the Senate Energy and Natural Resources committee said yesterday that when the bill Kennedy backs that would effectively halt the wind farm comes up for a vote in the Senate, they will object on procedural grounds. They say they'll argue that a renewable energy project shouldn't be lumped in with a bill governing the Coast Guard.

Meanwhile, a group of rank-and-file House members, worried about the political ramifications of rejecting alternative energy sources while motorists pay $3 a gallon at the gas station, have persuaded House leaders to sidetrack the entire bill for at least several weeks, even though it was slated for action this week. The delay could give supporters of the wind farm time to make their case to members of Congress.

''Are we going to be for developing alternative energy or not?" said Representative Charles Bass, a New Hampshire Republican who helped persuade House leaders to table the bill until at least mid-May. ''The longer you delay it, the longer there is for people to examine the issue, and to determine what's going on here."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/27/kennedy_faces_fight_on_cape_wind?mode=PF

Doesn't the Kennedy family have oil interests? This is very disappointing.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:44 PM
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1. I think this has to do with aesthetics
This has cropped up before - it's apparently a big eyesore where they want to put it.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:50 PM
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7. It's a big eyesore anywhere
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:25 PM
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18. Your post is pretty misleading.
These generators would be 6 miles from shore, and spaced 1/3 mile apart to allow ships to navigate.

They would be nothing like the windfarms in California.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:45 PM
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2. He has a house near the place the wind farm would be.
Why I disagree with him, I think it is more a NIMBY issue than anything else.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:45 PM
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3. A life time of fighting for the underdog undone by opposing a
windmill farm in Nantucket. Ah, the shame of it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:49 PM
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6. Do you really think this one action destroys
everything else he ever did? No on is perfect. This project is apparently visible form his house - the problem I have is that rather than fighting it directly it will impact other future projects.

But is there anyone who never did anything you disagree with?
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:54 PM
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10. it's about the wildlife and the fishing
It would disrupt both. There are reasons to oppose these things sometimes.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:59 PM
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11. That's the thing
I actually think they're good looking, but they do endanger wildlife.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:05 AM
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23. that's NOT why he's opposing it . . . n/t
.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:06 AM
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24. NIMBY on steroids . . . RFK Jr. also opposes it . . . n/t
.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:47 PM
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4. You've already declared he's part of Big Oil - now you're asking?
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 05:59 PM by AtomicKitten
Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy opposes the Cape Wind project.
from http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2006/2006-04-20-10.asp

Excerpt:

The project, opponents say, is too big, too close to the shore and will irrevocably damage the shoals, endanger wildlife and harm the region's economy and quality of life.

Notable opposition has come from those including Massachusetts Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy, as well as renowned environmentalist Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.


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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:05 PM
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14. Kenoil and Mokeen were merged in 1985 into the Kennedy family's Arctic Roy
Kenoil and Mokeen were merged in 1985 into the Kennedy family's Arctic Royalty Limited Partnership to avoid paying corporate taxes. The Kennedys are still getting their royalty checks today.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21553
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:35 PM
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20. Thank you for exposing him -- 40 years he's led us to believe
he's an environmentalist with all his pro-environment votes only to find out there is oil in his family fortune. He sure had me fooled.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:40 PM
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22. With frontpage as a source, you are not exactly credible.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:48 PM
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5. WITCH! Burn him!!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:50 PM
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8. You're wrong - in fact, the Kennedys are some of the best enviro-activists
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 05:51 PM by blm
on the planet.

Stevens added that bill re the Cape windmills knowing full well that Kennedy was against it.

Alot of that area depends on boating tourism and the windmills would effect that tremendously. The project also has its detractors in the environmental community who say that the project can also impact the local sealife negatively.

It's not as easy an issue as it sounds.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:04 PM
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13. Stevens introduced it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Well there ya go!

I have a hard time seeing Teddy or Boddy Jr opposing **good** alt fuel legislation.

Not that NIMBY might not also play some role here ......
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:53 PM
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9. why can't they put it off one of the poorer islands?
you want electricity?

get over the aesthetics.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:00 PM
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12. You know, when a guy has a record of several decades ...
... of working for pro-environmental policies, and he's opposing one particular project that some environmental groups support, don't you think there might be some other explanation than "He's part of big oil?" I mean, how very clever of him to conceal the fact that he's "part of big oil" until he's been in the Senate for 40-odd years. He may indeed not have good motives for opposing the wind project, but it obviously has nothing to do with the oil industry.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:08 PM
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15. My thought exactly
I'd like to hear from him as to why he opposes it.

Why should he have to pander to "Big Environment" (;)) at every turn if he has thoughts to the contrary in this instance.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:09 PM
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16. Decades of service to the working families of America and this one issue
causes you to lose respect? Gimme a break.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:22 PM
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17. I lost a lot of respect for Kennedy, as a man, when
he snubbed Jimmy Carter at the 1980 Democratic Convention.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:32 PM
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19. I'm still a big fan, however I was very, very disappointed to hear him
(on Meet The Press this past weekend) defend John "Flip-Flop" McCain's decision to speak at Falwell's University of hate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12407213/page/3/

MR. RUSSERT: John McCain, your co-sponsor on this bill, in 2000 said that Jerry Falwell was an agent of intolerance. He’s now met with Reverend Falwell, going down to Liberty University to talk at his commencement address on May 13th. What do you think of that?

SEN. KENNEDY: What, that he’s going down to talk? I think it’s fine. :puke: I went down there and talked as well. I was invited down there and talked at Jerry Falwell’s university to—as well.


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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:38 PM
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21. It's horrible to be a polite, classy, old-school diplomat in politics.
What the hell was he thinking.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:15 AM
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25. The Globe is an anti-Kennedy rag, and the windfarm is a scam.
It's sponsored by oil and coal companies. The point is to discredit the Kennedy family. It's got RW propaganda written all over it.

I guess it isn't all that isn't obvious, but once you see how these guys work, it is.
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