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wizdum Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:43 PM
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Rising gas prices -- a blessing in disguise?
I know it hurts like heck to pay dubya and his fat cat pals at the pump, but each time the price of gas goes up we should be rejoicing. Why you ask? Because the greed of dubya and his pals will lead to the undoing of the republican party during the midterm elections, and if the dems sweep into office and take the majority in one or both houses of congress, an impeachment may be on the horizon. If and when it does happen, we can all rejoice and get drunk. Let's all pray earnestly for Bush's impeachment, which may very well be linked to the rise in gas prices. I hope he keeps fighting with the Iranian president. That'll keep the price of oil in the stratosphere. dubya be warned -- loose lips sink ships.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:56 PM
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1. It is a blessing in disguise
I know this hurts many financially but the higher gas prices are the less Americans are going to drive. In the end this will help us with Peak Oil. Everyone better get used to it and make other arrangements to get to work. Cheap oil is gone forever. :cry:
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wizdum Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:01 AM
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3. Good point. The environment will benefit from these higher gas prices...
...as well. So many species are being lost to extinction right now that we need an alternative to fossil fuels fast. Necessity is the mother of invention and it looks like we are in for a period of high creativity and ideas to meet this motive challenge. And Americans will lead the way, rising to the occasion.
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mr.alleycat Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:59 PM
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2. I'm getting drunk
Just on the thought:bounce:
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wizdum Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:04 AM
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4. Yes. I think I will pour myself a stiff one as well. These high fuel costs
are giving republicans alot of gas. They are already full of hot air, and now they have a gas problem to boot. The dems will bounce back into power on the rising fuels costs.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:18 AM
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5. If gas prices stay high, people will invest in developing
alternative fuels. If the prices go up and down, they won't be willing to take the risk of investing much money. So says Tom Friedman.

Every cloud has a silver lining. It would be great for the country to become energy self-sufficient, even if it hurts now. Meanwhile, buy a hybrid if you can afford it, or simply drive less or slow down on the freeway. If you go down to 55 mph from 65 mph you will save gas.
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mr.alleycat Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:58 AM
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6. Let's grow Hemp!
Want an answer to our fuel problem?
Let's grow commercial hemp.
There is something wrong with making fuel out of something that can feed people.
I mean if our forefathers used it to write our constitution on it, how wrong can it be.

Hemp is a weed, and can grow almost anywhere.
But then again, if your Monsanto you'd fight tooth and lobbyist against it.


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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 01:20 AM
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7. Hell no
I drive cross country and back every summer and right now I'm wondering how I'll afford it this year. Nothing about this administration is a blessing in disguise, no matter how we try to spin it.
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wizdum Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 03:58 PM
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8. But these high gas prices just may be Bush's undoing and the undoing of...
the republican party. It'd be worth it if we could get rid of dubya.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:41 PM
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9. I understand the theory
Edited on Thu May-04-06 09:43 PM by Awsi Dooger
But look at the long term implications. These prices aren't coming down and they impact prices of one item and service after another.

Bush will be out after January 2009 regardless. It's still a polarized era and extremely close to 50/50. Even if we win congressional majorities this November, the margins will be so flimsy they will be up for grabs again in 2008 and forseeable. I'd rather have low prices and take my chances at the ballot box.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:44 PM
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10. Oh yeah, real blessing.
:sarcasm:
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wizdum Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:33 AM
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14. Well it's certainly a blessing for a planet awash in fossil fuel pollution
and for all the species that are marching toward extinction because of global climate change. It's not all about us, you know.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:56 PM
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11. Lip service
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:35 PM
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12. All he has to do is make a phone call
Edited on Thu May-04-06 11:38 PM by Alcibiades
Or at least that's what he said during the 2000 election, when he was trying to blame the Clinton administration (including Gore, of course) for high gasoline prices:

"What I think the president ought to do is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price." Gov. George W. Bush, 1/26/00

According to Pew, the gasoline price increase of 2000 was the most closely followed story in 2000, with 61% of respondents saying they followed the story "very closely."

And what was the price of gasoline that had Americans so concerned? What was the price that had G. W. Bush claiming he would call the then Crown Prince Abdullah up to get him to loosen up the oil spigots in Saudi Arabia?

$1.57

That's right, the average price per gallon in 2000 was $1.57 in the US. Today's average is $2.918, within spitting distance of the all-time high of $3.057 recorded in September of last year. And that's before the summer peak hits.

What's the matter, George--too f*cking drunk to find the phone?

And if, out of sheer perversity, you'd like to keep track of the avreage retail price for unleaded in the US, visit the AAA at http://198.6.95.31/

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:51 PM
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13. HOWEVER...
if the Democrats win with promises of lower gas prices, the mass of uninformed voters will expect them to produce results, and when that turns out to be impossible to do to any significant degree, the voters will turn on them.

How about speaking the truth: the age of cheap gasoline is over for a variety of reasons, continued use of internal combustion engines is exacerbating global warming, and the Dems will replace oil wars with improved mass transit and intercity rail, support for retrofitting communities for non-automotive transit, and intensive research into alternatives for non-automotive uses of petroleum products.

Naa, that would require not pandering.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:59 PM
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15. That's right
If the party in power promises cheap gasoline and does not deliver, they should be held accountable.

The truth will do, and we should also remind everyone, everywhere that Bush in 2000 claimed he could deliver cheap gasoline with a phone call, and contrast this with the Bush of 2006, who has suddenly awakened to the fact that we are "addicted" to foreign oil. Jesus, Democrats have been saying that since Carter, or before.
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