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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:51 AM
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Uh Oh. Things aren't looking good for 2008 Presidential hopeful Bill Frist
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/05/washington/05rebate.html

$100 Rebate: Rise and Fall of G.O.P. Idea
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and CARL HULSE
Published: May 5, 2006

But the idea, part of a larger eight-point plan, fell flat. It was ridiculed by consumers and scorned by fellow Republicans in and out of Congress, including some of the seven senators who, like Mr. Thune, had stood beside Mr. Frist to announce it. "I never was in favor of that," Mr. Thune said Thursday. "We all got out there and tried to put our best face on it."

The rise and fall of the Republican $100 rebate offers a window on how Washington sometimes works in a slapdash way, featuring in this case Congressional aides who misread the political climate and lawmakers desperate to hang onto their jobs. It is a story, as well, of how concepts and plans can be reduced to sound bites that make them seem absurd. And it is yet another example of how Senator Frist, who is contemplating a bid for the White House in 2008, has stumbled at the pinnacle of Senate power.

Mr. Frist failed to air the plan with all of his Republican colleagues, a serious oversight in the eyes of lawmakers who were caught off guard when they heard about it. One Republican, Senator John E. Sununu of New Hampshire, said that after he caught wind of it he quietly tried to steer leadership aides away. "I made it clear in no uncertain terms to some of the staff that this was bad politics and bad policy," Mr. Sununu said.

Without feeling invested in the rebate, senators felt free to criticize it publicly. One of the first to do so, Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, acknowledged that Mr. Frist had been hurt by the episode. But he said there were other victims as well. "I think it hurt all of us," Mr. Cornyn said, referring to his Republican colleagues. "It appeared to be a nonserious response to a serious problem."



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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:54 AM
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1. They think just because they're a bunch of whores...
that the American people are as well.

:spank:
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:01 AM
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5. Virginia, you summed it up beautifully!
The sooner Frist leaves the stage, the better.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:38 AM
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6. But even a whore would have been insulted by the price these
Johns were offering! :evilgrin:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:45 AM
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7. Yes, it's like a high class hooker offering you $100....
for something they wouldn't do for less than $1000.

:smoke:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:56 AM
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2. Thune---what a joke--people can see through this!

.....But the idea, part of a larger eight-point plan, fell flat. It was ridiculed by consumers and scorned by fellow Republicans in and out of Congress, including some of the seven senators who, like Mr. Thune, had stood beside Mr. Frist to announce it. "I never was in favor of that," Mr. Thune said Thursday. "We all got out there and tried to put our best face on it."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:59 AM
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3. Stumbled at the pinnacle of power??? Give me a fucking break
The what should have been a one-day Trent Lott/Strom Thurmond story was PROPAGANDA, CATAPULTED by Rove, in order to get LOTT OUT OF THERE and install a pliable toady, Bill Frist.

If he's at the fucking PINNACLE of power, it's because he was lifted up there by the Rove crane. He didn't get there on his own, he doesn't actually DO anything but carry messages from the White House, and he can't even whip his own side into shape. With the MAJORITY!

The guy is a loser. A flopsweat loser. Even without the egregious cat killing, that should be enough to banish him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:00 AM
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11. I guess rove didn't see
this one coming? Is he all tied up in pending indictment scandals? :evilgrin:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:02 AM
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13. Rove always knew he was a USEFUL TOOL
...but Rove likely knew he wasn't sharp enough to go any further than where he plunked him. And he was right on that score!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:00 AM
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4. One could say
that some of the republican senators may have been for it before they most likely were against it. Relative to that first sentence, one might then ask, who's in charge and question the future hopes and dreams of whomever that might be.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:48 AM
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8. Any way you slice it...
it was a stupid asinine idea, and if this is the type of leadership the American people can expect out of Fristy boy, it's better that it become known now. I like it when ass hats show their true colors.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:01 AM
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12. That was my
thought, too.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:57 AM
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9. This thune just admits he's
a friggin liar..

"I never was in favor of that," Mr. Thune said Thursday. "We all got out there and tried to put our best face on it."
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:57 AM
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10. Can you remember a time when things WERE looking good for him?
Man, that seems like forever ago. All I can remember is Schiavo and "get some devastation in the back." When did Frist ever look good?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 09:07 AM
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14. For about 5 minutes during the 2004 campaign...
...when Rove was asked "what's next" and he expressed interest in running a Frist 2008 campaign.

Frist didn't look good to ME, of course, but that was probably his high water mark...thinking that Boy Genius would carry him to victory in four years.

I think that ship has sailed.

:evilgrin:
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