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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:59 AM
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I saw a Clinton/Obama 2008 bumper sticker.
Did I miss the memo?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:10 AM
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1. My skin just crawled. nt
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:24 AM
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2. Not getting my vote
:thumbsdown:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:41 AM
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3. How about Clinton/Murdoch...
since she's so cosy with the king of fascist media these days. :evilfrown:
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:59 AM
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4. I'd vote for Jeb Bush instead
Just kidding. I'd take full advantage of being a non-partisan voter. I get to select the ballot of my choice and it wouldn't be them. :puke:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:15 AM
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5. Oh, Gawd, that makes me sick. But maybe we can get election reform
out of them, retrieve our right to vote from the Bushite corporations who now own it--with 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY vote tabulation software and virtually no audit/recount controls--and then NEXT time, WE get to choose OUR candidates.

They will have to at least pay lip service to good government practices, such as **TRANSPARENT** ELECTIONS!

It's a long term fight we're in, to save our democracy. We may have to swallow some heavy shit while we struggle to restore our sovereignty. But we will win, in the end.

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SOME RESOURCES FOR AMERICAN REVOLUTION II:

Hopeful signs - latest news:

California voters sue the state over Diebold:
www.VoterAction.org is suing the state of California and 18 Calif county registrars on behalf of 25 California voter/plaintiffs, on the illegal Diebold "certification" by Schwarzenegger appointee Bruce McPherson.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2180496
Seven of these counties just promised the judge they would use PAPER BALLOTS, and were dismissed from this lawsuit (4/27/06).
http://kcbs.com/pages/29285.php
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2249205

Maryland rejects Diebold:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x418263

Florida - anti-trust accusations against Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia, re: heroic Florida election official Ion Sancho:
(FLA AG subpoenas the companies)
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/legalissues/story/0,10801,110192,00.html
http://www.tbo.com/news/politics/MGBKSY8W8LE.html
(info & discussion)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2183630

Utah county clerk fights back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x419226

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More resources for American Revolution II:

www.votersunite.org (MythBreakers - easy primer on electronic voting--one of the myths is that HAVA requires electronic voting; it does not.)
www.UScountvotes.org (statistical monitoring of '06 and '08 elections--they need donations)


(Activist sites with links to state activist groups or info)
www.votetrustusa.org (news of this great movement from around the country)
www.votersunited.org (good general info, and state links)
www.verifiedvoting.org (great activist site)
www.solarbus.org/election/index.shtml (fab compendium of all election info)

www.freepress.org (devoted to election reform)
www.bradblog.com (also great, and devoted to election reform)
www.TruthIsAll.net (analysis of the 2004 election)* :patriot: :applause: :patriot:
www.votepa.us (well-organized local group of citizen activists in Pennsylvania, where important legal issues are at stake, including state's rights over election systems)
Provisions of the PA lawsuit:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x423739

The Voter Confidence Resolution
http://tinyurl.com/rlnr2 (“We Do Not Consent”)
http://guvwurld.blogspot.com (GuvWurld blog main page)
http://tinyurl.com/amryg (Voter Confidence Resolution

www.debrabowen.com (Calif Senator running for Sec of State to reform election system)
www.johnbonifaz.com (running for Massachusetts Sec of State on strong election reform and antiwar platform)

*Some tributes to TruthIsAll, who is very ill:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417007
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417231
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x675477

Congressional bills:

Russ Holt's HR 550 requires a real paper ballot, bans secret software in "voting machines", and has more than 170 co-sponsors, but the audit required is too weak, it promotes electronic voting and centralized power, and the secret software might be permitted to continue in the central tabulators (the bill is not clear). To sign the HR 550 petition: http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html
At lot of discussion at DU of the loopholes/pitfalls in HR 550:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x422926
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x421136
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=422967&mesg_id=422967
(Note: Senate Bill-SB 330 and House-HR704 simply require a "voter verified paper audit trail" (VVPAT), which may be best for the moment.)


Also of interest:

Michael Collins (Autorank)'s searing election reform article for New Zealand's Scoop.com
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x971363

Bob Koehler (-- four recent election reform initiatives in Ohio, predicted to win by 60/40 votes, flipped over, on election day, into 60/40 LOSSES!--the biggest flipover we've seen yet; the election theft machines and their masters are now dictating election policy! Title: "Poll Shock" 11/24/05)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col321.htm

Bob Koehler's latest: "Trust us: Take this box and stuff it" (3/16/06)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col337.htm
More Koehler:
www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?file=20051124ctnbk-a.txt&catid=1824&code=ctnbk

Amaryllis (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia lavish lobbying of election officials - Beverly Hilton, Aug. '05)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

HOWARD DEAN remarks on electronic voting machines 04/06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x994507

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Throw Diebold, ES&S and ALL election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

:think: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :think:

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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:45 AM
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6. They repealed the 22nd ammendment
Bill Clinton is running with Obama :bounce::bounce::bounce:
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:59 AM
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7. Just some Repuke
Promoting the freeper wet dream!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:03 AM
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8. No way will I vote for that ticket. n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:17 AM
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9. Wow - I'm guessing this Democrat REALLY wants
to alienate the mushy middle in the red/purple states, huh?
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 08:05 AM
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10. Any Democratic ticket will trump the Republican one.
I will vote the STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC TICKET

except for governor of Ohio where we have no good choice.

Others will have to decide that one.
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