Is it **what** they did? . . . . . or **that** they did it?

Is your concern over the NSA crap based on ...... what, exactly?

On the one hand we have *what* they did. They spied on American citizens on American soil doing what every American does for no better reason than they could.

On the other hand, we have the simple fact that they actually *did* it. It is clearly illegal. It is cleary unprecedented and unwarranted. And they just .... **did** it.

For the sake of this discussion, try to separate these two sides of the same coin. What bothers you more?

If "what" they did wasn't so horrific, the fact that they "did" it would be moot.

The law is a joke. It is so bad, a Congresswoman is actually introducing a law that the President must obey the law!

The USA is DOA.

I'm so furious. Are they trying to drive us all ape shit wacko? How much more of this lawless stupidity can the human mind tolerate? The President of the US is supposed to be the keeper of the laws. We are supposed to be looking to this idiot for guidance and that secure, cared for feeling. He is supposed to be our leader. Oh, GOD! I can't believe this is happening! Somebody pinch me! Surely this is a nightmare!

Consider it a slap across his smirky face.

saying that he is not obligated to obey the law.

...when he became Prez!!

He is definitely required to uphold the law!!!

and what he believes is all that matters to him.

...he took the oath! And by taking the oath, he certainly agreed to uphold the laws!

he referred to the "criminals in Washington".??

Those freaks of nature in the administration are putting us in the position where we are agreeing with terrorists! And then they hold it against us! Sometimes the bad guys speak the truth. What is it the Bible says about how the Devil mixes lies with truth to keep us confused?

If I had one wish, I'd wish that tomorrow morning, everyone in the world would wake up wearing cowboy hats that cannot be removed. Black for the bad guys and white for the good guys. There's just no other way to tell them apart!

the administration are putting us in the position where we are agreeing with terrorists!

I'll go ya one better ...... **if** what they say the actually did is true (BIIIIIG 'IF') and **if** they did with the data what they say the did with the data, and **if** they went o the FISA Court for permission, I don't really have a huge problem with it. Its bothersome, to be sure, but maybe not an outrage. A pattern-match search could well turn up a lead or three to what might be in the planning stages.

But the fact that they just went and did it - with their patented 'fuck you America' attitude ... that just puts me so far over the top I start to spit and sputter.

The real problem is.......after all that we have seen from this admin, who (at this point) trusts them to do what they say they're doing?

I mean they have told so many HUGE lies, does anyone really trust them anymore? I know I don't!!!

...There's nothing incriminating in my phone records that I know of and I'm sure that applies to all my friends and relatives.So what they did is "merely" an outrage....But what put this in perspective was that I had to pick my Dad's car up from the dealer after some warrantee repairs....the shop was 30 miles out and a friend was to drive dad's car home,since at 80 years old he can't drive the highways.The trip required we pass through one of the few toll booths in the state for the first time since the state installed a "Speedi-Pass" system.My friend pointed out the new video surveillance cameras and that the state had recently passed a series of draconian fines for anyone "running" the tolls....So here we are-modern technology and the power of the state to crush a 50 cent violator of road use taxes,while the President of the country can announce on live tv multiple violations of Federal laws (including the 4th ammendment rights of 200 million citizens just today) and a vast majority of our elected representatives think that a motion of censure-that's right-words, is TOO heavy a penalty to consider.....our elected representatives can bite my ass!

he "Broke the law" and put himself on the throne
thru election fraud and manipulating some judges in FL to declare himself victor.

He broke laws then and the NSA wiretap is nothing more than an extension of the same thought process...
Americans should have been outraged then and should be outraged now but most my friends don't even know the NSA tapped their phones.... sad.....

From this simple first instance of ignoring the rule of law, and Americans unwilling to fight or stand up for election fraud the way the russians did after their fraudulent election, has led us to this problem of an alcoholic that keeps drinking and we keep enabling his habit.

what must America do now, within the rule of law, or short of a revolution to reverse the broken laws and restore order to our country? or has Bush appointed too many wackos that will take 20 years to clean out of government and the election fraud so rampant, complete reversal of order is becoming near impossible?