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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:22 AM
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White House Meeting today - Photos (grim faces)
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:41 AM by partylessinOhio


    President Bush, center, speaks with the members of media after participating in a meeting, Friday, May 12, 2006. Left to right are Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney, Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and former Secretary of State Colin Powell.





    President Bush, right center, speaks with the members of media after participating in a meeting, Friday, May 12, 2006, with the Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and former Secretaries of State and Defense in the Roosevelt Room at the White House in Washington.


Oh, the inhumanity sitting at that table. Damn them!


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Edit to add link to these Yahoo photos:

http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=bush%2C+rice&c=news_photos
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:25 AM
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1. Why the hell is Powell there?
Did they let him speak?
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:29 AM
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6. Perhaps Powell and Albright are there to taint them with the Iran invasion
that is sure to follow this evil.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:30 AM
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9. They wanted to show a veneer of honesty?
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:30 AM by redqueen
To convey some kind of semblance of competence (despite the betrayal and willful dishonesty)?

Who knows.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:30 AM
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I think he was having some...
kind of meeting with former defense secretaries and secretaries of state. Like the dog and pony show he put on a while back.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:25 AM
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2. What the heck is Powell doing there???
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:27 AM by C_U_L8R



(hahaha.. jinx'd with tridim.... same curiosity)
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:07 PM
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31. Notice he and Rumsfailed are at opposite ends of the table. nt
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:26 AM
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3. Why is Colin Bowell there?
I thought he was spending 'more time with his family'? (It says this meeting was today)
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:26 AM
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4. room chock full of evil.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:28 AM
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5. See first picture.
He's still on about that damned fish he dreamt he caught.

The subject obviously sent Cheyney to sleep unless he's praying he catches a bigger one.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:29 AM
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7. If there can be any true Justice in this world...
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:34 AM by Amonester
http://icasualties.org/oif + All The Murders And The Human Rights Violations We Never Hear Of.

I Want To See These War Criminals Tried And Convicted At The Hague In Their Lifetime.


Edit: I Am Too Angry To Type. Sorry.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:30 AM
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8. In the last picture...Is that Albright?
If so, what is she doing there?
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:42 PM
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35. It sure looks like her; from the link it said
that the meeting included past and present Secretaries of State and Defense - which I guess answers everyone's question as to why Powell is there too.

They all look like a sorry group of miserable sad sacks there.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:30 AM
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10. link? What on earth is Colin Powell doing there...?!
:shrug:
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:38 AM
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22. Here is the link to Yahoo photos:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=bush%2C+rice&c=news_photos

These are new photos from today, not old photos.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:30 AM
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11. Does Powell carry some sort of Presidential Priviledge that he can
sit in on Cabinet meetings???
How does that work?

LAST PIC - Is that Madeline Albreit seated to Powell's Left?
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:31 AM
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12. LAST PIC - Is that Madeline Albrite seated to Powell's Left?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:51 AM
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28. Looks like her....coffee and war anyone?
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:55 PM
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36. She mentioned at a discussion/book-signing for The Mighty & the Almighty
That she and other former Secs of State / Defense would be invited back to the White House soon. At the first meeting Secretary Albright didn't get long to talk, but she made it clear that she pulled no punches in her remarks.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:33 AM
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13. Last picture? Nobody's looking at the open-mouthed chimp except
Cheney.

Everybody else is staring straight ahead, and several have their hands folded as if in prayer - - or to keep from pulling their hair out at having to listen to the mangler.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:33 AM
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14. Notice the tableware
Condi,*, Shooter and Rummy do not have cups in front or them. Are they afraid to drink without their tester?
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:33 AM
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15. Aren't these the pictures of the 15 minute meeting Bush threw
together a few months back, with ex-secretaries of state and diplomats to make it seem he was reaching out outside his bubble?

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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:35 AM
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19. No...
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:36 AM by Klukie
I think he had another one today.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:39 AM
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23. Oy. They are so pathetic.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:36 AM
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20. Bolten and Snow probably checked the poll history
and saw Bush got a 0.0002% bounce the last time he did it. They're desperate.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:34 AM
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16. Looks like James Baker was there too
Can anyone identify all (or any more of the participants there). What was their meeting 'supposedly' about?
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:35 AM
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17. Look at the other side of the table.
Do you see Kissinger, Baker and Haig?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:41 AM
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25. Oh Dear! That's not good. All the genocidal criminals are assembled.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:35 AM
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18. Perhaps it's that 'round of early Alka Seltzers. Still queazy, eh?
Plenty of water glasses on that table...and lots of empty coffee/tea cups (but one). Ulcered stomachs CAN be fussy.

THOSE are some sleepless faces too. Ahhhh....
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:38 AM
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21. Link, please.. nt
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:41 AM
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24. Whow. The one that stuck out to me is
Edited on Fri May-12-06 10:50 AM by cliss
Cheney. Especially in photo #2. Take a good, hard look. His face is pasty, pale. His hair is snow white. Notice how fat he looks. His head is oddly hunched forward. I'm ready to start an office pool on how long the old buzzard will last.

Even Rumsfailed looks great, compared to that old creep.

Just a bunch of old, fat white men running he show.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:43 AM
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26. Not all - I see Madeline Allbright in the corner of the pic. She is a
champion of liberty. Also note that * seems to be talking and no one appears to be paying any attention to him - in fact, Rice and Powell appear to be studiously ignoring him. Powell looks downright miserable.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:45 AM
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27. a champion of liberty-- if you don't happen to be an Iraqi child...
...in need of killing.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:38 PM
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29. Now that's not fair. Where did that come from?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 12:54 PM
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30. it came from Albright's lips....
Edited on Fri May-12-06 12:57 PM by mike_c
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright

In 1996, she made highly controversial remarks in an interview with Leslie Stahl on CBS's Sixty Minutes. Asked by Stahl with regards to effect of sanctions against Iraq: "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" Albright replied: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price -- we think the price is worth it." <2>. When asked about this remark in 2005 she said "I never should have made it, it was stupid", but she still supported the concept of tailored sanctions <3>.


Given that Iraq was already "fundamentally disarmed" by the early 1990s (Scott Ritter) it's an open question just what Albright thought was worth the deaths of all those children. There was nothing left to achieve by that time but more death.

Then there's her comment to Colin Powell about "what's the point of having the world's most powerful military if you never use it?" (paraphrased from memory).
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:12 PM
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32. It was kine of a set-up question and yes it was a clumsy answer which
she apologized for later. I don't think you get anything like that out of the "powerful military" quote. Regardless, one has to look at the overall accomplishments of someone and not focus in on off the cuff or out of context quotes. She is a champion of liberty and she served our country with distinction as sec. of state. The support for sanctions of Iraq can certainly be criticized but let's be real. The muddled mess in Iraq left by George Bush I and Saddam's continued harassment of U.N. weapons inspectors left only hard choices. Innocents certainly got caught in the middle but they always do in war and it is not clear to me that it was mostly the sanctions that were to blame or that the sanctions were not necessary to keep Saddam in check. Certainly I would say that in 1996 it was not clear that Saddam had been fundamentally disarmed. Hindsight is wonderful. Besides, Albright was instrumental in instituting the Oil for Food program in 1996 and expanding it in 1998 so it is not fair to imply that she was callous to humanitarian concerns.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:33 PM
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34. it wasn't just a stupid offhand remark, IMO-- it was support for a policy
Edited on Fri May-12-06 02:35 PM by mike_c
...that was utterly immoral. The U.S. bombed hospitals, water treatment plants, civilian communications facilities, electrical generating capacity, civilian fuel production and storage facilities, and other civilian infrastructure and then imposed sanctions meant to inhibit reconstruction and do the maximum possible damage to the civilian population. Albright didn't just make this single comment-- she worked diligently to implement and maintain the thumbscrews on the Iraqi population. An estimated one million Iraqis died by the time she made that remark. That's genocidal by anyone's standards.

on edit-- note too that she later claimed to be sorry for the remark, but NEVER apologized for all the killing.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:06 PM
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38. I believe I addressed your policy point in my post. You are talking about
events that went back to the Bush I administration. You can't hold Albright responsible for the deaths of innocent Iraqis that may have resulted from sanctions imposed in 1990 when the Clinton administration didn't take office until Jan 1993. The sanctions were imposed by the U.N. in 1990 so even if one accepts the premise that the sanctions killed one million Iraqis (which I don't think anyone can say with any certainty), it would be absurd for Allbright to "apologize for all the killing". Anyway, as I said, when it became clear by 1996 that the sanctions were severely impacting innocents in Iraq, Albright led the effort to institute the oil for food program - which was a success, contrary to all of the flak flying around about it now. Should Albright as U.N. ambassador have pushed for the oil for food program earlier? I think so. She should have also pushed the U.N. to intervene in Rwanda. But don't forget, Albright represented the U.S. at the U.N. and the U.S. President was Bill Clinton. So if anyone should be doing any apologizing it should be Bill Clinton and George Bush I, not their U.N. ambassadors.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 08:35 AM
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44. good god-- the Clinton administration is just as responsible as Bush.....
Edited on Sat May-13-06 08:37 AM by mike_c
This has all been reviewed extensively on DU. Where have you been?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:15 AM
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45. Right here. You are just reacting- not reading my posts
I addressed the Clinton responsibility directly. In fact that was one of my points. No point in continuing this if all you are going to do is react and not read the posts with care.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:04 PM
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Powell should be miserable!
Edited on Fri May-12-06 03:10 PM by ShortnFiery
**Correction** This is a response to Post # 26. :blush:


Second to George Tenet, Powell's prompt submission of an unqualified resignation could have, more than any other act, PREVENTED the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Yes, Colin "What My Lai Massacre?" Powell. I never believed you. :grr:

Albright's a cold broad - "I think it was worth it." (She was referring to all those years of sanctions that is estimated to bring about the death of 500,000 children). But even she has a higher moral compass than Powell or the neo-cons. :thumbsdown: That is, as far as I know, Albright never "jumped on board" the Iraqi Invasion bandwagon?

None the less, this is a room chock full of individuals who, IMO, will have a whole lotta 'spaining to do to Saint Peter at those blessed Pearly Gates. ;)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:25 PM
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33. Wes Clark called this a Photo OP....cause a 1 hour meeting on this
Edited on Fri May-12-06 02:36 PM by FrenchieCat
serious issue, is not gonna quite "cut it". This is the 2nd photo op of Bush, cabinet and former Sec. of States from previous administrations. It's just to make it seem like Bush and Rumsfailed are "listening" to various views on approaching their "Iraq" problem. Wouldn't be surprised if Bush and "Failed" both have cotton in their ears.....just in case anyone suggests anything that makes any sense at all! It's kind of the same "PR Repair" Rumsfailed tried with the Military General Television analysts after the Retired Generals did a Pile on (Clark was not "invited").

"You cannot get substantive discussions in a photo op meeting that goes on for an hour. If these meeting were really going to be substantive, bring in the advisors, brief all these Secretaries of Defense, read them into the issues, pull them up to Camp David for a two-day or three-day weekend and really go over the program. That's what you'd have to do if you really want to get anything out of a meeting, not everybody sitting around a table and making two or three comments." --Wes Clark

In same interview, he spoke of one of the Bush's administration approach, and why it is in err.....

"This administration doesn't have a policy for the region. It may think it has a policy, but it doesn't. It pursues a separate course of action with Iran, a separate course of action with Iraq, won't talk to Iran, won't talk to Syria and really doesn't even listen to the concerns of the our friendly neighbors there in the Gulf. So, what we've got is a series of bilateral conversations or non-conversations with people without putting it all together in a package that can meet people's needs in the region." --Wes Clark

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:04 PM
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37. Where's the paper?
Any working meeting I've been to you needed:


  • The agenda
  • the minutes of the previous meeting
  • your papers for your contribution to the meeting (if you're not contributing, what are you doing there?)

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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:15 PM
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39. I think they watched SNL last week...
Got the idea to try to pull Colin in for another go around with UN before they bomb Iran...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:16 PM
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40. All microphones are DIRECTED TOWARD our Dear Leader
Edited on Fri May-12-06 03:20 PM by ShortnFiery
Not to love the furor is a big disgrace,
Sig Heil
Sig Heil
Right to the furor's face. :P


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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:53 PM
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41. wonder if Colin ever made eye contact with the Condiliar
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:58 PM
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42. Are you sleeping, are you sleeping, brother John?


Do I look fat?



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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 11:32 PM
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43. What - do I LOOK that guilty?! What, me worry?
Edited on Fri May-12-06 11:32 PM by TankLV
I could go on.
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