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jonkronz2003 Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:02 PM
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NSA Phone taps-what else is being done?????
So, the NSA has secured tens of millions of phone records of US citizens to data mine the information to determine if there are terrorist patterns being developed. Of course, the stupid terrorists would never figure out that we might actually do that so when it was leaked by the press, they were aiding and abbeting the terrorists. "My God! Now they'll stop using phones and we'll never catch them."

But gee whiz, for the price of a postage stamp an "evil doer" can communicate with anyone in the world at any time and, wonder of wonders, there's no database that the NSA can tap into to track that type of communication (just leave out the return address and drop it in a mail box anywhere).

Wonder how they're going to justify the uproar when we find out our mail is being opened.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:05 PM
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1. Exactly -
What DON'T we know? There's PLENTY, and you can take dat to da bank.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:07 PM
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2. They've been opening the mail for months now.
n/t
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:07 PM
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3. NSA never meant to go after terrorists but US citizens. Vacuum cleaner
datamining was meant to establish a police state here, using offshored and outsourced entities if necessary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2621769&mesg_id=2621769

The scary thing is, now that it's been offshored and outsourced and you can't 'call it back', it is potentially accessible to the Republican Party exclusively to go after their political "enemies", meaning fellow citizens of different political persuasion (i.e. DUers).

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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:17 PM
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4. Looks like the Madrid Bombing Cell did use the Internet...
...but they used in a low-tech clevery way to avoid detection.

They all shared one e-mail address. They all had the username and password. What they did was to log on, create an e-mail message, then save it as a draft, and log out.

The next person would log in, read their drafts, and create new drafts in answer, and so on.

None of the messages traversed the internet as a message.

They were just stored in one place and read from the server.

Not sent.

Clever.

Unless the NSA wants to build-in keystroke readers on each computer that sends the strokes back to the NSA, they're not going to catch that.

And if they do keystroke-log all of cyberspace, the terrorists will just switch to graphics or something else.

Domestic spying can best be used DOMESTICALLY. Period.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 02:24 PM
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5. There are the Known Knowns, then there are the...
Its the Unknown Unknowns we have to worry about.

Boy, Rummy sure was right about that....
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 03:42 PM
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6. Tap and Track Cell Phone Users While Phone Looks Turned Off
If you consider how secretive and anti-American this administration is,

Listening and GPS tracking capability built into cell phones would be a logical guess. Track and listen any time while the phone looks turned off.

The OnStar system is a good example.

http://www.engadget.com/2005/12/02/messing-with-onstar-gets-men-arrested-for-drunk-driving/
http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/about3518.html


Are you paranoid yet?

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