Congrats to TruthOut - Do you see now how the WH has control of ALL media?

Let this be a clear lesson to everyone of how much control the White House has over the entire Mainstream Media - whether "liberal" or "conservative".

There is no chance in hell that all of these highly placed individuals were oblivious to what has happened with Karl Rove.

My challenge to everyone is to force major media outlets to site TruthOut.org. If you hear otherwise, pounce on them with emails and phone calls. Let them know the TRUTH. Demand the TRUTH.

Kudos to TruthOut.org!

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

But like it or not, there is a certain level of "legitimacy" that a story clears once it hits the corporate media. That's the way things are, and that's the world that we live in. I watch the corporate media because millions of others are watching it, and that'as how they obtain and process the news. We must deal in that reality.

I accept TruthOut's analysis and journalism. In fact, I accept it more than most major media outlets. And, I can't possibly be alone. By advocating outstanding journalism, maybe we can raise awareness.

I also want to state this indictment in the affirmative (non-conditional), thereby aligning my own reputation with TruthOut. I'm willing to go out on a limb for them, since they're doing the same for me by making me aware of the truth earlier than the rest.

The silence we are experiencing right now is what is truly frightening. It's the hum of big brother churning out a way to deal with this present darkness.

Peace,
Keo

earlier than I came to DU. I used to love it when my favorite political writer would have a peice there. What was that guy's name? Oh, yeah, William Rivers Pitt.

so I donate monthly. Whatever it takes to keep the darkness from eating the truth to those of us who seek it. You can't write it off but who cares?!

"Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove."

finding this out can only mean one thing for Rove...... Perp Walk.... :)

He said/she said isn't good enough for destroying someone's reputation...they have to make damn sure it's right.

Once this indictment is officially announced, by the special prosecutor or someone else, documentation will be forthcoming.

Rove is making the most of his 24 hours, saying goodbye to people and such.

I love the smell of bacon in the morning.

waiting for the announcement and the RNC talking points needed to spin this.

Spiraling, maybe.

But none of the MSM can go with a story anymore based on word of mouth. The media are wiggy about premature announcements of election results after Florida 2000, unverifiable chain of custody after the Killian memo.... Just look at how long it took Hookergate to come out. They waited until Foggo's home was raided and he was fired before ever putting the speculation out there (most were dismissing it as rumor until then). The raid provided some corroborating evidence. If they relied on one person's statements alone, they'd be in danger of getting it wrong fairly often. Plus, factor in that we're talking about the possible indictment of the meanest, most vindictive son of a bitch in politics today. Get it wrong, and your life is ruined, not just your career.

We'll have to sit tight, but I don't think it will be long.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2625443#2625539

Apparently Jason Leopold, the author of the article claiming that Rove had already been indicted, is now refining his story.

But if the indictment comes, even if it's later than we expected, I'll give him a pass.

This lockdown of information will be an excellent example of the control that the corpomedia has over the vast majority of Americans.

I hope than when the great uninformed start rubbing their sleepy little eyes Truthout will do a big series on Deibold, ES&S, Sequoia and the Ohio fiasco. It might be the highest profile available, and our best shot at '06.

Think about it. We have the traditional print and electronic media, with billions of dollars of infrastucure and staff and resources out the ass ...... and then we have people like Truthout and Raw Story and the others. They're .... what? A skinny, skinny staff ... some working from home in their bathrobes with a computer, internet connection, fax, and a phone ..... and guts, determination, standards ..... and actual sources.

Will they make mistakes and get it wrong? Of course they will. But they also represent a wave of hope. They're really trying (or at least that is how it appears to me) to get the story and get it right.

They **have** to be daring when they get onto a big story. They **have** to break it early (maybe even too early sometimes). Were they not, no one would notice them. And they'd have no credibility at all. None. Zip. Nada.

In this day and time their role, really, is simply to challenge the establishment media. To beat them with stories and force them to cover stuff. And that's a very risky business. One wrong 'get' and they can be blasted out of existence - by the RW media and even by some on our side. They're *clearly* subject to getting Rathered. Or just plain hooking up to a bad source. Or being spun as alarmists; the boy who cried wolf.

They're walking the high wire .... and there's no money to buy the needed net.

I'll stay on their side, thanks. My normal and necessary skepticism is in place, but my emotional trust is with them ... even when they fuck up.

Surely the establishment media isn't on our side. If not the 'new media', then who?

Wasn't he the same reporter that was accused of plagiarism by Salon?

The Mainstreeam Media haven't got a source or confirmation from Fitz's office. I'm a little sceptical until Fitz confirms.

The difference between the coverage of Clinton and Bush and his brain is astounding. As I stated on another thread: MSM is irrelevant. They are nothing but propaganda awaiting their dissemination.

They would, and will, put it in the headlines.

Political/justice reporters are all over this story, IMO, and will report it if they can get any confirmation. Leopold is an awful source, will a terrible reputation. But the Mainstream Media would have a field day if Rove was indicted.

despite the complete lack of evidence in any criminal activities of Clinton, the press was wild about speculation, stories, allegations...and we have not heard one peep from the media on this Rove thing. Bush and his cohorts enjoy the protection of the press.

In Starr's case, the leaks were deliberate and coming from his office.

Fitzgerald doesn't leak.

All the media are looking to find evidence/a leak/a hint that Rove will be indicted. It will be on the front page of every newspaper when (God willing) it happens. It will dominate the cable news for a week or more.

The problem is that Leopold has little credibility, and Truthout may go down with Leopold. Fitz runs a tight ship, and no leaks yet, IMO.

Wait for Fitz: forget everybody else, wait for Fitz or his office to make the announcement.

I have nowhere near the amount of faith in the MSM that you do.

If TruthOut is wrong (not proven yet), I'll correct myself. But, I'd much rather believe William Rivers Pitt than Rita Cosby. That's just me.

... and the 'certainty' with which the statements were made in Truthout make it impossible not to conclude that either Leopold or his sources lied (less likely: Truthout didn't do due diligence on his sources.)

The MSM would love to get Rove and scream it in the headlines, IMO. It would be the top story several days in the papers, and a couple of weeks on the cable news stations (FOX excluded.) Every political/justice reporter would love to have that scoop.

Your pretending that no reporter would love to scoop its competitors with the story that Rove is indicted is silly, IMO.