It's Too Late Baby

Suddenly, the world is filled with bad numbers for Bush. Suddenly, long standing republicans are voicing their concern with the current administration's policies, and suddenly the MSM is beginning to "see the light" and are reporting on some of the scandals which are now too big too hide behind doors.

Suddenly, the average citizen in the US is aware that Bush isn't exactly what they had in mind when they elected him. Suddenly, there are dissenting voices, suddenly pukes are being charged with heinous crimes, and suddenly, those repukes still in office are feeling a little hot under the collar.

So what? So fucking what? If people are only now seeing the whole wicked regime the way it "is" and only now are beginning to realize this dictatorship was all rigged, both in 2000 and in 2004, then they are both in denial and they are FUCKING STUPID SHITS.

Let's start with the average guy on the street. If you'd look at news from some place other than Fox news or a newspaper owned by someone other than a repuke, you would have KNOWN LONG AGO the shit that has been hitting the fan from Day One, and even further back than that. If you lived in a town with a responsible newspaper, like Boston with the Globe, New York with the Times, and Los Angeles with the Times there, you would have voted Democratic right from the start. So what if you're feeling the financial crunch now? Fuck you for allowing these illegitimate assholes from getting in the white house in the first place!

Repukes still in power: You hitched your star to this illegitimate regime LONG before the 2000 election. You IMPEACHED the Democratic president just before him--you focused your sight on Clinton and made his administration look like the Devil's Own. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for the trillions of dollars wasted, you are responsible for the WAR IN IRAQ and if you get ousted in November, blame NO ONE but YOURSELF for your fucked up lives. GO TO HELL now, because that is where George Bush has put us. Understand? You will not get MY sympathy, nor the sympathy of any voter I know come election time.

Mainstream Media: You turned away when the shit was flying since January 21, 2001. You turned away when the Boston Globe was the only newspaper to report on the idiot's AWOL. You turned away when the pukes were sending reserve guards into Florida during the recounts to intimidate people, and you never reported all those who were disenfranchised from voting in that very same election. You ALLOWED the repukes to pretend they won fair and square, which you know damned well was not true. Since then, you have blithely ignored SO many damaging stories about this administration, and allowed people to believe that this administration was filled with good people.

So what's your excuse now, assholes? Katrinagate, Plamegate, AWOLgate, Abramoffgate, Iraqgate, Irangate, Funeralgate, jesus lord almighty, you have fucked us over and keep up a made up face that somehow all is still right with the world, while so many here in our country are still clueless about how fucked we really are, and how fucked we actually WERE five years ago.

Radical religious right: You fuckers are the worst. You claim to have god's ear, huh? You are so wrong, and so righteously hypocritical that if you ever do meet a "god" when he or she comes, you will be the first ones smote. You practice intolerance, hatred, war, child abuse, ignorance, greed, and every other one of the seven deadly sins: Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Lust, Anger, Greed and Sloth--and you have broken every single one of the 10 commandments to which you claim adherence. If there was ever a true "rapture," you would be the ones on the short end of the stick--lost to hell on earth for eternity. But most of know there is no rapture, and unfortunately, some of you will quite likely manage to live out a perfectly normal life, despite the evil that resides in you.

And now, it seems that the majority of people know the truth and are seeing this regime for the devils and evil men that they really are. We saw it too--five years ago--even earlier. We saw the repukes lie and cheat and steal, and how they tore our country apart trying to impeach a president on the strength of a single lie, a lie that was part of his personal life, and now we are faced with a president who not only lies daily, but probably doesn't even know the truth anymore, since he has begun to believe in his own lies. And yet, because there is no fail-safe, no checks or balances, he has been allowed to run amuck without paying the price for his complicity. He had been given free rein in distracting the American people from an unjust war, from continual lies and favors garnered by the pukes in power, and even now, it appears he will likely manage to escape from punishment in the private sector when he is out of the white house.

I've had it. Many of us have. We've seen the degeneration of our country, its reputation around the world, and we've seen so many good people suffer at the hands of this horrible group of power-mongers. We have no say. We have no way to make our representatives in congress vote the way we want them to. They have begun to think of themselves as MORE than the representatives of the people, and as autonomous brokers who control their own destiny. Where did they get that idea? From the assholes who put our country in jeopardy under President Clinton, who defied the public's wishes and who sought political party revenge solely for their own benefit. It all harkens back to Clinton, because it took Clinton to show how horrifying the country looked under the power of a Bush, Reagan and Nixon. Because it all showed that Democrats were the ones who could keep a surplus in the budget by not catering to corporations, not allowing favors to influence peddlers and not giving up other options instead of a preemptive strike to war.

I don't feel sorry for any of these people. I don't feel sorry for most Americans who have allowed this all to happen. I don't feel sorry for anyone who buried their heads in the sand, who feigned ignorance and allowed all the horror to be perpetrated on our nation by giving them another term in office. And, even if they had cheated and somehow managed to steal the election in the state of Ohio, there were sufficient votes in the rest of the country to show that ignorance was still widespread enough to divide our country in half yet again. To those who voted for George in 2004, I say simply--tough shit. Now we ALL have to live with the consequences of your actions. So fuck off, and shut up.

who enabled Bush. They are every bit as guilty in destroying our country as is Bush.

They are now awakening and acting as if they were deceived by the man. The Bushbots own stupidity deceived themselves plus their need for some hero worship figure.

If they had been doing their jobs and not kissing ass to save their skins, we wouldn't be in this shitty situation.

Fucking cowards.

There are very few independent journalists anymore who are willing to risk their careers for the truth. Stephen Colbert had it exactly right when he said they type it up and distribute it, without any kind of investigatory work. It's essentially calling in their stories--more clerical than journalistic.

have implemented Bush who is fucking up the PLANET as well.

Shit on the Pubs...they smell real bad...worse than Pig Shit

cruel, sadistic pukes.

I can barely contain myself when I see a car with one of those 'W '04' stickers smacked on its bumper. All I can think of is....ASSHOLE.

Well done, hyphenate, as always!

What's happening with your Narnia fundie friend?

My friend is getting a little better. She's been showing signs that the depression is still heavy on her shoulders, but a little humor is beginning to enter her again.

Thanks for asking. :)

Seems irrational depression is all too frequent in the Era of Bush.

Cheers!

Some people have been unable to cope and turn to an irrational belief system in order to remain sane. For some of us, we would rather try to ride it out, but with what we're dealing with now, disassociation seems more appealing every day.

Testify!! :applause:

:)

Well, I hope the people here who voted for * in 2004 read your post.

Frankly, I oppose amnesty for these people.

They allowed * to deliver the surplus to corporations and the wealthy, and used the rest as business start-up or slush funds in Iraq under the guise of national security. Republicans, specifically, should be made to pay back all the deficit before they earn the right to ever vote again in this country.

It is definitely nice to see many seek refuge at DU over this asshole in chief, but I do wish they felt more than just a twinge of guilt at their voting for him in 2004. By that election, Bush's true nature and the overall ill effect he was having on our country was already apparent. For those who voted for the chimp just because they didn't like Kerry, there IS no excuse. They really need to look deep into their psyches to see why they hate a man who is obviously a far better one that the jerk who is in the Oval office right now.

and I just can't fake it.

It's too late.


I don't wish ill on anyone, but if you bought it, and laughed at the people who didn't, and called them traitors, you need to know: you own it. In fact, we all own it, even those of us who let you have your way, while fighting against it tooth and nail, because we believed in American democracy.


I can only hope that something was learned here.

This debacle has torn apart families and life long friends. I won't tolerate them. There was no reasoning with them. GW is a "christian" doncha know? That makes it all "okie dokie". Hell on earth indeed.

What did Christianity have to do with W's redistributing the wealth from the middle class to the wealthy, and declaring war on innocents of third world countries?

I don't wish Bushbots harm, I wish them to state that through their own stupidity they endorsed a man who has done more to harm this country than any American who has ever lived. They need to own up to their own crap.

we can't ignore the convention that what is required is recognizing past mistakes, and making decisions based on a higher understanding.

I don't want anyone to cry Uncle, or ring a bell crying "Unclean! Unclean!"

I want people, in owning up to their own crap, to be choosing to move past it, towards what American democracy is supposed to be.

It sure is a fine line between demanding accountability, and assigning blame, isn't it?

Have to tattoo a sphincter on their foreheads, wear a red B, and serve me coffee.

-Hoot

And considering that some of them would do the same to us, not all that unreasonable.

Christianity was brought up by his supporters over and over as a reason for their vote. He was "chosen". Remember? Every other candidate also seemed to have some religious preference too, but in their eyes, Bush was chosen of "god" to LEAD this country, or bring about the end times, or whatever they have in mind. I have no idea how they reconcile his actual actions compared to his lies?

It is too ingrained in their DNA to remain oblivious to their mistakes.

alone will hopefully give him eternity in the bowels of hell--if there is one indeed. I don't quite believe in it all myself, and I can only hope Fate will deliver a cruel fate after he is out of office.

But how many will ever admit to being wrong in this debacle? How many will never own up to the fact that our country is in the process of trying to survive the worst presidency ever? Many will never open their eyes to truly see.

60% of Americans like Bush personally. My (_|_)!

Karl Rove's already been deemed a lying asshole? :)

:nuke: Preach on brother. In the immortal words of John Crichton: "We're so screwed!" :nuke:

it's "sister" by the way! :hi:

Er.. I.. was using "brother" as a universal hippie term for friend, kinda like "man" for "human". Yeah.. that's it.. Doh! I mean - Preach on sister!! Thanks for speaking your mind - you really nailed how alot of us feel. :)

You're welcome! :rofl:

We TRIED to tell you this was happening. You were too busy cowering in fear over another terrorist attack - fear Bush manipulated out of you - listening to nuts like Coulter and Hannity (what the hell do they know anyway?) and calling us traitors that you couldn't see past the ends of your nose. Nor could you see who the REAL traitors were.

This could've been changed. We had the chance in 2004 to get rid of this jackass and elect someone who could actually lead the country. Out of loathing for Kerry and fear, you chose to put this man back into a position of power. Now you're FINALLY starting to understand what we've been trying to tell you for five plus years, after the damage has been done.

I'm glad you're finally starting to realize the truth. But seriously, folks: WHAT took so long?
Ringo

I want to scream such sentiments from the rooftops here in Texas

Otherwise I'd be asking for another heart attack!

:kick:

the damage can be mitigated. "They" always say, write to your representatives etc. That's rich! It seems that every week the adm. comes up with some new damaging policy, law or whatever. Remember when you could say to yourself - how much damage could be done in just a few years? Certainly the checks and balances will kick in, the press will report, people willsee the light. Well, here we are, in debt up to our ears, facing the possible demise of SS and any chance for reasonable healthcare, and in a senseless war (to name a few items). I don't know why "they" say the economy is fine. If it weren't a war economy, how well would we be doing? How long are we going to be strong with this humungeous deficit? What's going on with the dollar? What will be the result of our country's loss of respect? What happened to not mixing church and state? Why can't I decide on an abortion or birth control? What happened to our civil rights under the Constitution? So far it looks like the right to have a gun is all that they are preserving. I don't recognize us anymore.

The republicans are still in power WITH their new fangled "super-secret" spying program that targets both our so called Free Press as well as anyBODY who dare speak ill of Our Dear Leader.

I'm still scared sh*tless and hope that The People can make our Senate Democrats BLOCK Hayden's confirmation. IMO, if Hayden eeks through and is given "free reign" to spy on *'s democratic opponents, ALL IS LOST for the continuation of our Democratic Republic. :(

in November. I hate to pin our hopes on that election since we had our hopes up so high in November, 2004, but if the current backlash is any indication, this election might be a part of our salvation, if the results aren't tampered with. We have no other choice but to wait, since we know the pukes in office now will never own up to the fact that they're all on HIS side these days.

You point out how pugs, those who voted for pugs, media, and others have been proven wrong. That may be objectively true from our standpoint...but I'm not sure they look at it that way at all.

Their loyalty to and support of this administration was never about being right.

For the corporatists among them (media included), loyalty and behavior was based on corporate greed. In this sense, the administration has been and always will be considered stellar. This group of oil and energy representatives are heroes in the boardroom. They will not change their votes or behavior even in the face of DSMs, indictments and the rest. In fact, they will continue to look for any reason to continue their support until it is not profitable to do so. I doubt that DSM or Abu Ghraib altered Exxon's and GE's relationship with the administration or their future offspring (Rice, Frist et al).

For much of the religious right and everyday dyed in the wool pugs, their loyalty was not about being right either...it was about BELIEVING in the overall mission. This group may be disappointed in the way things have turned out but don't place blame exactly where it belongs. They believe the press and the left have torpedoed their administrations efforts to make the world a better place. They buy the line that dems and secularists are ruining America. They believe that George's heart is in the right place, even if he mis-steps and even if his officials screw up sometimes. Pugs may admit their guy has made errors but being right simply doesn't matter as much as intent and belief. They are disappointed but still REALLY, REALLY WANT THEIR "TEAM" TO GET IT TOGETHER AND DO WELL. Most will never vote for dems...they may skip voting....they may respond to pollsters that they disapprove of George's job performance....but they won't cross over in the polling booth. Deliberate polarization of the public has made this impossible in significant numbers.

My point is that the people you talk about are surely disappointed in the way things have gone. But they want to be on the winning side again and are waiting for any reason to jump back on to the bandwagon..they will cling to any single issue that comes up in their favor. I suggest they are easily brought back into the voting fold for GOP. I suggest they are not permanently disassociated from voting or supporting GOP at all. They will do it again in 06 and 08 given the proper excuse....decent economic news (probably fake or temporary)...Osama found...Hussein hung...Iran resolved or demonized....some troops returning from Iraq....vial of anthrax found in Iraq....no more indictments by Fitz....flag burning amendment...another attack on Christmas....anything. They want to hang their hats on something and are desperate for it.

They want an excuse to support their guys and the administration and press will do whatever they can to give it to them. I echo your frustration and anger so I guess I agree with you but caution that we may see close elections again (and not just because of election tampering). It ain't over yet.

The intelligent pukes are the devious ones--they vote because of their own self interests, not because of their desire for good to win over evil. They are a different breed of pukes than those who stay in the GOP for single issues, like gun owners or the RRR. They are the ones who we will never be able to tear away from the evildoers, because they are greedy, ego-centric and completely and totally without a conscience.

We will never win their vote--ever. They can never embrace a philosophy to "spread the wealth" or give a hand up to those in desperate need. They will always ask the question, "what's in it for me?" before they cast their votes.

The key thing, though, is are these people in any way a large enough group to keep the US from turning things around, and getting our nation back where it should be? I don't know. Statistics on the kinds of voters that are out there are incomplete at best, and while we might be able to turn around citizens who still maintain a conscience, we know that "28%" of the population will always vote for their own interests over the interests of the country. And many of the others out there who have finally "seen the light"--are they going to get up and vote in November? We can only hope so much, because we deal with reality here at DU on a daily basis, and the overall news is hardly anything to be happy about.

It gets to a point where we are fucked, no matter what happens, and if we get to that place, we might as well begin to make plans to permanently get the fuck out of a country that is heading down the tubes.

When it gets this bad there are many reasons why they don't want to recognize the bottom.

It is either too horrible or too far off to acknowledge> It defines the narrowest bunch of crazy Bush believers, like finding out that the feared IRA only has 100 active RW members. By the same token it identifies and makes possible the study of the crazies, who they are, what they believe and how they got that way- and that they all watch FOX "News". It shows the rest of the GOP and/or Bush coalition as fragile, in rebellion. To even discuss issues of "getting them back" is wishful thinking that exposes more vulnerabilities and a different kind of intramural competition toward the bottom.

Ignoring the collapse and its eventual settling on the pressure crushing depths is to enforce the only thing slowing or qualifying the speed of fall, that is ignorance. Something of relief can be felt when noting that it takes a walloping dose of fantasy TV and radio and a sheltered community of lies to gain Bush support. Apparently when ANY self interest kicks in, i.e. reality, humans can rise to the occasion and lower the false idol into the melting pot.

Apparently even these selfish deserters of Bush are not hardened malevolent or violent as the worst misogynist views of the human race might posit. The fact we HAVE Bush up there speaks exactly and utterly clearly as to what is wrong with the best, middle and worst of us. The fact that most people want him down speaks just as clearly to hope and what is instinctively the most right about human reason and nature- even in a problematic civilization. Is our people learning? Can us do better?

You summed it up succinctly. Screw the whole lot of them. I hope that these fascist enabling numbnuts enjoy the humiliation and embarrassment that they will have to endure for YEARS!!!!

I can't wait........

teehee

:evilgrin:

even if they learn. I doubt too many of them will ever admit to being wrong, right from the start. It's definitely NOT in their best interests to do so.

someone who sees the obvious point:

"one man is an oppressor because many are slaves, let us despise the slaves"

and one more thing about your awesome post Hyphenate!
"telling the truth in times of deception is often a revolutionary act" - George Orwell

THANK-YOU Hyphenate for being a revolutionary...

Rebellion is something I'm rather fond of. :hi:

what corner do we meet
and what time???

RIGGED and there STILL isn't any real Election Fraud Reform!

Even with all the scandals, I don't see HOW we will win in 2006. The ONLY solution I can offer is to take to the streets. And yes, here I go again. But until THEY see the whites of our eyes THEY are going to try to do it again. I feel NO comfort when it comes to voting, yet I still go out and try to recruit people.

I still vote too, even though I have little HOPE. I've said many times, to me HOPE is now a four-letter word. We The People are just going to have to get out there and march!

And I KNOW, from posting this ALL THE TIME, that this isn't a popular topic, but does ANYONE else have a better idea. If so, I would love to know because I'm ready and willing to sign on.

We have to live with the disaster that has been created and it MUST STOP before it gets any worse. It's already monumental and it's going to take decades to repair! We need to DO SOMETHING, our leaders aren't! Almost ALL of our leaders anyway!