Think Immigration Battle is a Huge Smokescreen

I think that the entire immigration battle is a Republican fed mass media driven distraction from the real issues the Bush administration wants people to forget.

Really, how much danger are we in when it comes to our Southern border?

I think the Rethuglicans thought they had a sure winner and are hoping the media keeps following this story so it will get away from Iraq, the wiretapping, abuses and so on. I also think this is Bush/Rove's way of speaking directly to the the base of the Rethuglican party.

Sadly, the media has fallen for it. Am I mistaken?

they sure picked the wrong issue! They are more divided over this than the Dems are!

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and yes, the media has fallen for it.

it that he had asked networks to cover his evening speech from the Oval office.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

(look down the page, titled: Alberto's " unclear" about how his grandparents got here

M_Y_H

Is not a bit different in tone or content from the manefesto written by Robert Jay Matthews, founder and leader of a group know popularly as "The Order", aka "Bruders Schweigen".

When I get some time, I am gonna blog on this with some of the relevent passages. Not a dime's worth of difference between his rhetoric in the 80's and the rhetoric you are hearing now, even from Lou Dobbs.

The most racist elements in our nation have been mainstreamed. For political gain. By guess who.

has been in power for almost six years, and they're addressing this NOW??? Besides, gay marriage is SO 2004!

But it is splitting the Republicans at their core - the bigotted rascists vs. the cheap labor business interests. That said, this cuts through all parties, but Democrats are not nearly as doctrinaire on this as the anti-immigrationists.

I don't think the Republican Syndicate wanted to have this issue percolate up from the rank-and-file, but once out in the open, they had to make a effort at window dressing the issue. Still, all is not lost...they've managed to find a way to siphon off yet more tax dollars to the MIC. It will cost us billions to deal with a relatively minor issue. We could't afford 10,000 more boarder patrolman last year, but we can afford to give the MIC billions more this year......

I think that people are going to start looking at other issues through the lens of illegal immigration. So, not only are people not even thinking about immigration issues sensibly, but they'll start to say things like, "who needs good public health care and public schools if illegal immigrants are just going to use those resources for free?"

I know that sounds ignorant beyond belief, but I think that's one of the real reasons Republicans and the media are all-illegal-immigration-all-the-time. It's an issue that makes working people think that things that are actually good for them are bad for them.

The 3% of the poorest and politically least represented. I'm all for reasonably secure borders, but the Republicans have had 5 years to deal with it and didn't. And I don't want us to start building walls to pander to the paranoia of a few. So how big an issue is it? The net upside and downside seems to be a wash. This is election year smoke and mirrors and the worst time to address the issue. Let's wait until after the November elections and deal with it as part of a comprehensive Democratic agenda.

don't believe for one minute you own the bullshit of calling people like me a racist or a bigot just because I would like to see this country's borders protected. It has nothing to do with that and if you are calling me a racist thats more bullshit. Our borders Need to be protected North and South and don't give me that piss down your leg racist bullshit. If you are so worried about cheap labor how many have you turned in? How many of those poor Illegals have you helped? I am so sick of this bullshit every time I see a post like this I could puke.
Oh and if you are so interested in turning in the people who employ them here is a link...http://www.wehirealiens.com/default.asp Go for it..you know you won't people like you are to busy calling names.

the general population.

Welcome to the new wedge issues. Along with immigration I've read about a few other newly minted wedges issues including Gay Abortions and Taking Guns away from citizens during national crisis (aka Katrina). Most of them have large amounts of lobbyist money behind them to SPINSPINSPIN away during episodes of Law & Order: CSI unit or American Idol.

Everybody's up in arms--except the sane. What could be better than that for BushCo? They like chaos.

this is truly ridiculous, this sudden terror and fear of low wage workers.

All the Al Qaeda type terrorists have to be dead for the sheeple to worry about Mexican migration patterns.

They were so willing to give up their rights when it came to "fighting terror." Now suddenly they are willing to give up their rights so they can get $2/hour jobs. You know, the ones the Mexicans are "stealing" from them.

Its all bullshit, smoke, and mirrors. A trap and we're gonna walk right in. The route to success for our side is twisty and steep. It will take a lot of political skill to win.

I think our best bet is to ruin the clock instead of trying to run the table on this one.

Hayden's a better chice of target. We **can** win on that one. ::::cough:fillibuster:cough:::::