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heartofthesiskiyou Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:04 PM
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What's up with this front group standing in front of AT&T etc. - sneaky
Nuestar (google CEO Jeff Ganek) is the group fronting AT&T and others for thier NSA activity. What is truly going on here gets real complex real fast even to someone in the industry that is familiar with the language and processes.

This is a job for investigative reporters (and organizations) with a staff of investigators working on following this individual and his business activities. Those investigators should look closer at the group of interests he is involved. Look at Nuelevel in addition to Nuestar. Nuelevel is involved with taking over the .net's and already owns and started .biz

We had a difficult time a few years back when the government in a famous 3:00 AM decision in Congress to create a corporation of a group of a half dozen retired generals and take over the entire internet registration, and effectively take over total control of the internet. It was, to make a long complex story short and wishing to not "glaze the eyes" of non-networking participants in this thread, that placed the first switch on the internet and created a monopoly that as an "incentive" for the generals made them multimillionaires. That structure remained the only game in town for those wishing to register domains for about 18 months until a consortium of independent ISP's and those freedom fighters that created the vision of the Internet like EFF and others were able to bring a case to strike down the congressional move. The company they formed is Network Solutions and needs to be watched. I was involved in that case on the periphery on the political side. The case we won has never been paid, I can't remember the exact figure, but was certainly in the tens of millions the public was ripped off for. In another secret 3:00 AM congressional decision they "took" (see stole) the moneys the court ordered (including the funds for our legal representation), and gave them to a little known governmental commission allegedly to be used on behalf of the users of the internet as they apparently, if I understand the argument, new what was best for us.

What this has to do with Nuestar and Nuelevel is this appears to be another attempt to install a "switch" somewhere on the Internet, though this time not on the whole internet but the .net's It looks like another installation in a piece by piece strategy that could conceivably overcome the "problem" with creating a monopoly by one company in control of the whole internet. Nuestar is referring to this as the usTDL project without publicly defining the project. TDL's are the .com .net .org, ect. etc. portion of domain names

View this redacted document (pages A 1-11, pages A 12-43 are "unavailable to the public" and appear to be classified) were it is stated they:

"Will be responsible for overall system delivery and will
manage the design and development processes of all usTLD systems".

In this doc they taught there ability to "provide transparency" to their clients
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/usca/cafiles/SectionA.pdf

They seem to be involved in an endeavor that establishes monopoly by narrow regions of control that effectively gives them control of whole regions of communications. See here on telephone issues they are referring to the "telecom transformation" were I provide this quote from Nuestar CEO Jeff Ganek (and former AT&T executive and other corps):

"Neustar manages all of the telephone numbers in North America. Providers need a copy of our database for calls to get routed. We exist to facilitate interoperability among thousands of networks that exchange trillions of transactions annually to connect the calls that go through them. The best way to do that was to establish a trusted directory provider we could rely upon. That's what Neustar does. We've got more than 100 million records in the database. It's a critical piece of the infrastructure.

We operate that infrastructure on the trust model. We're not a competing provider of services. We're trusted by all of the providers. They need a place to go to know where to route a message. The destination of the message is not on the network. It's elsewhere."

http://blog.fastcompany.com/archives/2004/06/25/telecom_transformation.html

There's a ton of info concerning what these folks are up to and as I said it's going to take a staff and a whole project to flesh the whole story. Unfortunately it looks like another mess that EFF will have to clean up. This has that ODOR to it that I've whiffed before. It's a Nuestar/Nuelevel alright......

I'm posting this info as a starting thread in General in the hopes it will not get berried.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:10 PM
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1. kicked & nominated for the tech squad. . . . . . eom
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:37 PM
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2. This is intriguing
Wish I could understand it a little better. Geographically speaking, where is this AT&T protest going on, in NYC?

How come none of the mainstream liberal blogs are talking about these developments--especially in the light of the net neutrality fight?

Peace be with you.
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heartofthesiskiyou Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:59 PM
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4. The Nuestar connection
standing in front of AT&T is bleeding edge material. I am probably the first one to start placing Nuestar under the micro scope. I suspect that they will get hip over the next few days. I've sent the initial info over to a contact at EFF, and I suspect we will be hearing from them in the future as they are at the forefront of these kind of issues.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:28 PM
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7. Re: NeuStar - IMPORTANT related thread
See, Redelegation of .us Country-Code Top-Level Domain

After a long governmental procurement process, on Friday, 26 October 2001, the United States Government entered an agreement with NeuStar, Inc. to provide registry services for the .us country-code top-level domain (ccTLD), replacing VeriSign, Inc. Consistent with this change in contracted operators, on Friday, 16 November 2001, the .us ccTLD was redelegated from VeriSign to NeuStar.

This redelegation occurred before the completion of the normal IANA requirements. The United States Government informed ICANN on 16 November 2001 that, because of complexities of U.S. procurement laws, it was not able to extend the existing arrangements with VeriSign nor complete the necessary three-way set of communications among itself, ICANN, and NeuStar. This presented a peculiar set of circumstances: ICANN was faced with the choice of (1) either authorizing a redelegation, or (2) creating a situation where the event would have occurred regardless but there would be inconsistent data in the IANA database. Given ICANN's primary mission focus on stability (and security as part of achieving stability), ICANN authorized an emergency redelegation prior to an appropriate contract.

All parties involved are committed to complete these contractual and other arrangements as soon as practicable following the end of the protest period (regarding the NeuStar contract) that is allowed for by U.S. law, this apparently being the earliest opportunity that U.S. law allows the U.S. Government to participate in contract negotiations. In its contract with NeuStar, the United States requires NeuStar to abide by the GAC principles (which require a binding written communication with ICANN), and has so committed to ICANN directly.

A full IANA report will be posted as soon as it is complete.


http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:atVR1h2TTWcJ:www.ic...
Also, see IMPORTANT related thread at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1241901#1243888

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:51 PM
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3. nominated..
:kick:
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:57 AM
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5. Those 3:00 AM congressional decisions really frost me. KICK
:dem:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:37 AM
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6. Good post
I don't think it will be buried.
:thumbsup:
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