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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:40 AM
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Watch your back Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emanuel wants your job
Just got done finishing watching the Mc.Laughlin group when the host blurted out the following. "If Democrats take back the house this year, there is already a plan in the works, headed by Rahm Emanuel for the party to pick a new leader. Could Emanuel be setting the stage for a possible, or probable run against Pelosi to become the provincial head of the Democrats in the House?? If Democrats do take control of the House, do you want Pelosi at the helm, or someone else??
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:44 AM
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1. Rep. Emanuel, Sir, Would Be An Excellent Speaker Of The House
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killerbush Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:45 AM
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2. He probably would
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:53 AM
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4. He's an excellent purveyor of DLC hogwash, I'll give him that.
Accent on the purv.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:10 AM
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7. We Do Disagree On Some Things, My Friend
In my view, Rep. Emanuel is an extraordinarily skilled and canny and ruthless political operative, and we could use a few dozen more hard men cast in his mould.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:34 AM
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16. We don't need any more "hard men", especially not DLC. Plus, it
would send a terrible message to women. You may want to pay attention to the fact that women and minorities are more than 50% of the Democratic voter base.

Nancy does a good of walking the fine line that a Minority Leader has to walk. She's capable of "kicking ass" and does so at the right times.

For example, the strategy with Murtha was to let him take the "point" position since he had serious credibility on the issue. Then, she had to provide cover for some of the other Democrats who didn't agree so she took the lead on that. I know that some that she was waffling, but she wasn't. She was doint the strategically sound thing.

It sometimes feels good to raise voices and yell, and it can be effective in the right place at the right time, but most real work gets done when the volume is a little lower.



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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:47 AM
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20. Hard Fighters, Ma'am, Skilled In The Craft, Are Definitely Needed
The term is an old one, dating from a revolutionary struggle in Ireland, and my occassional use of it is certainly not intended as a sexist expression.

Rep. Pelosi, in my view, does an excellent job as Majotity Leader, and would be a good Speakker, but in my view Rep. Emanuel would do a good job in that office as well.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:55 PM
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24. I have no problem with his skills, just his associations.
Edited on Sun May-21-06 01:56 PM by Jim Sagle
He's a Business/Beltway Dem through and through. He knifes grassroots Dems in the gut (see Duckworth, Tammy).

So you lost me at the "we." He's not one of "us." He's on the other side, the corporate side.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:09 AM
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12. He is certainly that, but Pelosi is certainly not a prize either!
It was Pelosi who said that there will be no impeachment if Democrats take the House, an extraordinary claim that only could have been matched in stupidity by a Democratic Presidential candidate making a promise of pardoning Bush and Cheney if the Democrats were to win the White House.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:47 PM
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22. You have GOT to be Kidding.
I so completely disagree.. His dishonesty and his machinations makes my skin crawl.

but then I don't see Pelosi as that great either. I'd like to see a member of the Progressive Caucus given a chance as speaker of the house - but apparently not in this lifetime, not during this era of fascism and those in Congress that intend to keep this era a live and well for a long long time to come.



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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:53 PM
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23. I agree. nt
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:53 AM
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3. Perhaps we should concentrate on what we have to do FIRST
in order for this to even be a concern.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:04 AM
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5. Perhaps he might make a good speaker, dunno.
I view him as a slick sleazoid, just short of pure republican, and one of those I would prefer to see out of gov't completely.
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jrd200x Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:07 AM
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6. Almost anyone is better than Pelosi
Emanual is a Clintonite. It would have to better than what we have.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:26 AM
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8. A report this week said that Pelosi is ready to replace Harman
on the intel committee. That's bound to make the conservative dems itchy.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:27 AM
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9. I hope he gets it.
Just my opinion.
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demswin06 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:30 AM
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10. I thought that I heard today..
that Emanuel would be in favor of PRIVATIZING SOCIAL SECURITY. Didn't we try that trick back in...2005? I've noticed that every time a GOP bullshit artist gets on and pontificates about the hopeful upcoming Dem tidalwave coming this November,the "scary San Francisco Liberal,Nancy Pelosi" line comes out. Frankly,we need a "scary" liberal to run the House,not some wishy-washy,get along DLC type.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:38 AM
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11. I'll take Pelosi. Emanuel is DLC mobster. The appeasement of...
Bush will continue under his (Emanuel) regime.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:24 AM
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13. I'll take neither of them!
Too bad that Dick Gephardt was suckered into supporting the illegal and criminal invasion of Iraq, for it would have been someone with his pro-labour credentials that we sorely need in a leadership position in the House, not a pro-globalist corporatist jerk like Emmanuel, or an appeaser like Pelosi.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:30 AM
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14. How about John Murtha? Strong working class-pro labor roots...
Edited on Sun May-21-06 11:30 AM by AX10
and an Iraq War critic.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:33 AM
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15. Murtha would be better than Pelosi or Emanuel
I would rather have someone like John Conyers.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:39 AM
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17. Steny Hoyer I thought was battling Pelosi for that position.
Replacing Jane Harman must be hitting home if reports are true.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:43 AM
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18. could you please explain this?
"Replacing Jane Harman must be hitting home if reports are true."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:46 AM
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19. Article.
Edited on Sun May-21-06 11:47 AM by madfloridian
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-harman18may18,0,7815253.story?coll=la-home-nation

Don't know the truth. Don't know if reports are true.

Edit...forgot snip.

"Harman Resists Push Off Spy Panel
By Greg Miller and Richard Simon, Times Staff Writers
May 18, 2006

WASHINGTON — Rep. Jane Harman, who has gained national prominence as the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, is fighting to hold on to the job amid indications she will be rotated off the panel next year.

The dispute pits the Venice lawmaker against House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco. Its outcome could determine what role Harman, who once ran for California governor and is one of the most quoted Democrats on intelligence matters, will play in the next Congress — if she is reelected."
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:34 PM
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21. We can't pass up having the first female Speaker of the House
When we are on the verge of having the first female Speaker of the House, it would send a horrible message to the women that vote for us if we were to not elect her. I think the solution to this is that Pelosi should be Speaker and be the face of the House dems, while Rahm Emmanuel plays the less visible "bad cop" role as the Majority Leader.
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