I'm so impressed with John Kerry

Working hard for 2006 candidates. Thanks, Senator Kerry!




Gubernatorial candidate Ted Strickland cheers supporters during a campaign appearance yesterday at Martin Luther King, Jr., Plaza with Sen. John Kerry.
( THE BLADE/JEREMY WADSWORTH )

That's what's great about DU. The truth at least has a chance of being heard.

sorry to piggyback on your post.


Article published Sunday, May 21, 2006

"Hoping for headway with head start, Kerry joins Strickland rally in Toledo"


<http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060521/NEWS09/605210449&SearchID=73245332973014>


John, thank you for helping Ted, don't forget Sherrod.

:sarcasm:

I'll remove the link. But do I have to call him vile names, too?
I want to make sure I'm following the rules.

you probably do.

;-)

But maybe if we make a bunch of posts and recommends really fast they'll overlook the transgression.

Thanks for the article AND link! :thumbsup:

it's too expensive anyway. He's been blathering about how important it is for 45 years and frankly I'm sick of hearing it.

And another thing. He wants universal health care for all Americans. Jesus, where is this guy coming from? That's the same as socialism, isn't it? And worse, it would mean that all Americans, even the poor and unemployed and uninsured and often forgotten WOULD ALL HAVE THE DIGNITY OF HEALTH CARE. What kind of system is THAT?

And I could go on. These are just a few things. The list of crap Kerry supports and has even worked for personally is too long to get into here.

Maybe it's just me, but I simply have no interest in or respect for somebody who has spent virtually his entire adult life working for the betterment of others in areas of public policy.

It's a real turn-off.

I have to have a little fun now and then, but of course my vote for Kerry-Edwards was true and from the heart. Bush-Cheney cheated, I believe, and both Al Gore and John Kerry were only two of the victims. There are 300 million other victims, and of late the country is getting a good clear dose of Bush policies & FINALLY they're seeing that he's not such a hot leader.

Kerry would have been a great leader and may yet be. He sounds to me like a man interested in the job still, and evidently he has some cash to underwrite a campaign.

I hope to hear his voice in American public life for decades to come.

:hi:

:dem:

I love John Kerry. His voice comforts me.

what he is saying and how he is saying it, I can feel the campaign has begun.

This is not an elder sage on the back porch looking backward. This is a stallion-riding champion at the front of a mighty army.

I don't know if he will be the nominee, but it isn't going to for lack of an effort.

cannot find affinity for John Kerry.

Lincoln was said to have an almost unlistenable high-pitched, deep-in-the-hills accent, and was a 1-term Congressman.

Kerry has a low-pitched, steady voice and a lifetime of public service.

Ideology aside, you'd think they'd be a bit more receptive.

1997 - what was up with that?

If we can't have lobbyists and corporations buy our elected officials for us how will we ever get anything done? How will we make sure that CAFE standards don't get increased and that our nuke power industry gets subsidized instead of those tree huggers who want to put up (ha ha) a bunch of windmills?

I could go on but I think you know. Yes, Kerry is a real troublemaker.




:hi:

That's a good way to put it -- Kerry as a "troublemaker."

What will he be up to next?

:rofl:

I really think it is the warmest, nicest commencement speech I have ever heard. Kerry's admiration for what these kids' did in 2004 really comes through. The student who introduced him spoke of how he met with a group of Kenyon College allumni, Democrats and Republicans, in DC before writing his speech and really impressed them. I seriously can't remember who spoke at my commencement, but I assume that decades later these kids will know who spoke at theirs and might even remember some of what he told them.

link to speech:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=273x87623

the sun was out! ;-)

Yes!

Working hard to promote Dems instead of tear then down...a novel idea, huh?

I couldn't reply in time to your last post to me in that other thread because it got locked, so just wanted to do it here. Thanks...

:hi:

And it actually got locked once everyone had calmed down and made amends!

Ah well. I guess it was the use of the "P" word that shut the whole scene down.

I hope to call a truce with you, as arguing with you has been thoroughly exhausting and I'm trying to save my strength to "fight the real enemy" in 2006/8.

Not the Pope of course, but The Repuke Noise Machine.

:-)

Besides, with a name like mtnsnake, you might be related to the "Anaconda Menace" and I DO NOT WANT TO EFF WITH THAT.


:blush:

Edited to add: This just in! (Maybe Sinead O'Connor was right and the Pope IS the real enemy!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2297256

to everything you said. Likewise about the "exhausting" part, too. I was just as worn out as you.

I've been trying to keep any criticisms I have about JK's campaign more low-key and more infrequent, so as not to offend as much. Besides, I know if I step out of line, I'm gonna feel the wrath of the Kerry people (You Kerry ladies are tough!!), so I'd rather keep it more fun-oriented than of the other variety....for my own good! Then again, there's always those times when I'm just a glutton for punishment! ;)

Thanks for this discussion, Vektor. :)

(PS: Since you brought it up, I love anacondas as well as all snakes. Coolest animals on earth. Someday I'd love to see one of those 30 foot monsters that are out there in the Amazon somewhere. The "mtn" part is because I enjoy hiking the mountains in my spare time.)

I'm glad you too were succumbing to the exhaustion, and no longer wish to carry on the infighting!

And though we "Kerry ladies" (and fellas) :-) are indeed pretty staunch when it comes to defending our guy, we really do respect opposing opinions and questions if they are phrased civilly. We all pretty much agree (not just Kerry supporters, but all posters here, I think) that it's the name calling and accusations without merit of a credible source in the post that gets all our collective blood boiling. I guess sometimes we just snap when the argument gets heated. All of us.

I have had some great exchanges with people who have questioned Kerry's actions in a way that was genuinely constructive, but minus the slurs. Of course, it's the all-out flame fests that we all tend to remember most!

I'm willing and ready to put any differences we've had behind us, and I do appreciate what you said about trying to be more objective in your criticisms about JK's campaign. That said, I apologize for the times when I went balls-out bat shit on you out there in the battlefield. Hell hath no fury, after all...:-)

In reference to the Anaconda Menace, I have to admit that I was actually referring to a lewd joke that Old Crusoe and I were making on the thread that got locked. We kind of went off on a ridiculous side-bar that was a little off color. Truth be known, I also enjoy our reptilian friends, though I am a bit squeamish about watching them eat. :scared:

I noticed from your profile that you were from upstate NY. Are you familiar with this place?:
http://www.animalhavenshelter.org/

I sponsor some animals there, and am working with local volunteers and animal shelter workers here in Northern CA to get a no kill shelter going up here as well. As it stands now, we are slated to be up and running within a year. I'm a sucker for a furry face as well as a scaly one! :-)

I, too, am glad that we have had this discussion. I think if you and I have learned to get along, then miracles really do happen. :rofl:

So maybe we'll get our country back some day.

but it sounds like a wonderful place, being no-kill and all. That's nice the effort you're putting in to get a no kill shelter in CA. I've got a real soft spot for animals, not just snakes either. Quite often, I worry more about wolves, bears, snakes, frogs, owls, eagles, etc, etc, than I do about people. People can at least stick up for themselves, but animals just don't have a chance if we abuse them or their habitats. The places where my wife and I contribute are mostly animal/environment related.

You and I have gotten into it over opinions concerning JK's campaign (and yes, we both have the battle scars to prove it, lol!), but I've also mentioned many times what an admirable environmental record Kerry has and how much I appreciate him fighting the good fight for animals and the environment. I wish he flaunted his environmental track record much more than he did during his campaign, but that's for another debate.

Whatever it was that you and Old Crusoe were talking about in regards to anacondas, I don't think I wanna know. LOL! BTW, speaking of Old Crusoe, he has got to be one of the most level headed posters around, eh.


(I hope the OP'er doesn't mind this sub-thread)
:toast:

Keep it kicked.

:-)

We have a no-kill shelter here in Pittsburgh, while we're on the subject.

http://www.animal-friends.org/

The soft spot for animals... I've got it too, and the funny thing is - I have to admit, during the height of one of our "battles", myself and another poster were discussing your profile, and saying "Look, he likes to hike and is into music, and catch and release fishing...he seems like such a nice person from all that, I wonder why we can't get along with him on the boards..."

I guess you are probably a lot like me where you're essentially pretty cool, but have a short fuse when it comes to certain matters, and have real trouble backing down when confronted, which is why some of our rounds went on all night. And man, they were fierce. :wow:

And yes, I have noticed that although we used to butt heads a lot over certain things, you actually have mentioned Kerry's environmental record in a favorable light, and have made it a point, especially lately, to point out some of the good with the bad when discussing Kerry.

Meanwhile, due to mounting exhaustion, and the realization that you, too, were giving Kerry some credit, I made it a point not to get into it directly with you if you said something on a thread I didn't agree with. I just decided that I'd put my own comment in there if I felt I needed to, but not direct it at anyone in particular, just post a stand alone counterpoint if need be.

I actually agree with you that the campaign could have been waged better in some areas, and yes, with Kerry's sterling environmental record, he really could have brought that issue more to the forefront as a positive thing that he had to offer. I think a lot of people who run for President make the often lethal mistake of listening to campaign advisers who have made a career out of finding out a little too late what WON'T work. I think Kerry was told to focus on the Iraq War, and "take the high road" when the Swift Liars attacked him. (Bad advice, at least in the latter suggestion.) I think he also decided a bit late, also, never to employ those folks again, and to listen to his gut in the future.

I do credit him for the amount of votes he DID get, and how close the race was, even with Republican dirty tricks afoot, but if you think I wasn't beating my head against the wall in 2004 screaming "TAKE THOSE SWIFT BASTARDS TO TASK!! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!?" you'd be incorrect.

I may love the guy, and it may *appear* I feel he can do no wrong, but in reality, I do feel there were things that could have been done differently, and when I had the opportunity to speak with him in person last December, I absolutely told him that - other DUers can attest to that, I did not candy coat my opinions on the Swifties, or the hesitancy to flat out call Bush a liar.

You'd have been proud of me, I think. I actually criticized a little. :-) I also thanked him for the effort he has put into speaking out on, and acting on behalf of, the environment, working families, children, and our Vets - all accomplishments I believe he does deserve credit for.

I'm glad we had this talk. We aren't so different after all, god forbid!

:toast:

we'd all really like each other even though we might not think it during the heat of battle in some of the threads. And you and I have had a couple heated battles, especially that one that lasted until 3 or so in the morning EST with you, me, and Wild! My wife kept waking up wondering who in the heck I was posting to all night long. She thought I had an internet girlfriend! Hey, when you're flaming away like we were, it's hard to type quietly!!



You nailed it, especially the "trouble backing down" part. Neither one of us is too good at that, lol.



I was doing the same thing. In a couple of threads where we were both posting in, I was watching you from a distance, and I was being very careful not to cause all hell to break loose. I just don't want to go through another flame like that infamous one we were talking about. Takes too much energy and we only come out of it feeling bad. From now on we have to promise to limit our flames to only 1 hour! (j/k!) ;)

As far as Kerry's campaign, yeah, he definitely got some bad advice. Sometimes I come off a little strong on my opinions about the mistakes of Kerry's campaign and how I feel about his campaign advisors and managers, but I have very few problems with Kerry the man, Kerry the senator, and Kerry the war hero...despite how I sound when I say things like he "he won't win the primaries", or "never again" or other stuff I say that comes off a little on the caustic side. Sometimes, though, I like to rib you guys (the Kerry people) just for fun's sake, like the other day when I was pulling chains about Kerry's speech getting so many votes for greatest page. You were all good sports about it and that was a fun thread.

At the same token, while I admit I'm guilty of criticizing him here on this forum for his campaign, I'm a completely different person when I'm out and about, talking about John Kerry out here in the "real world" where I live. When talking politics "out on the street", especially with any of my more conservative acquaintances, they're dead meat if they say anything negative about Kerry, or about most any Democrat for that matter.



may? :evilgrin:




It must have been cool meeting him in person where you could actually talk to him.

Vektor, I've got a suggestion. In the remote event, hehe, that your man does get the nod in 2008 for Democratic candidate, Kerry needs to replace his previous campaign advisors with you and WildEyedLiberal. One thing we know for sure is that if you guys were giving him campaign advice, Kerry wouldn't be advised to look the other way!

I'm glad we had this talk, too. It goes a long way.

:toast:

Actually, you had two. And they were both pissed!! Ok, seriously, does your wife think you are absolutely nuts? Because it is a running joke in my house about what a rabid, seething political junkie I am and how I spend a lot of time online, at all hours, "throwing down" in political forums. My husband often jokes that he has "lost me to John Kerry". I am surprised there hasn't been "an intervention."



WHAAAAAA? Well, I'll be damned! You defend him? I am all aflutter at this news. Thank you for that. I'm stunned and grateful. I also defend almost all Dems. Solidarity, you know. Even if we may have our differences in here, when a Repuke comes at me "on the street" it's go time if they attack any Dem.



Kind of like the way you keep your eye on a rabid wolverine crouching in the corner? Hahah...actually, I was doing the same thing - the old "eggshell walk" as it were.




I agree. It's easy to go off on someone online, in the heat of an argument, and to forget their humanity when you are not face to face with them. In person, it's a little different when you are looking at an actual human being. I'm sure if we all met we'd get along, as well. Especially if there were Guinness on tap at the meeting place. Guinness transcends any political differences. In fact, I had four pints of the stuff in rapid succession the night I "gave the Senator my opinion." That was interesting. :beer:



This is by far the best advice I have heard, EVER. You might want to write to him and suggest this. He'll know who we are. ;-)

Thanks for this hilarious and cathartic exchange!

P.S. - Check out the new sticky on Grovelbot's board! :rofl:

I wondered if it was mtnsnake.

I also totally agree that we should be Kerry's advisors. Mtnsnake: have no fear, if we are Kerry's 2008 advisors, he will KICK ASS AND TAKE NAMES. I can promise you that. :evilgrin:

I thought it would be a nice, funny touch after a long, arduous battle. You like?

(WEL attempts her best Bawston accent, in preparation for this summer.)

Now THAT'S a picture!

I also love the part about how your husband often jokes that he has lost you to John Kerry. Too funny! Thank goodness our spouses are blessed with patience, eh, for those times when we get a little carried away with posting.

Anyway, enjoyed all the posts. I wonder if this is the longest sub-thread that isn't a flame. Maybe we've just set the DU record for longest un-flame!

All in fun...:hi:

Well, you can reassure her that you may have some internet NEMESES, but no online girlfriend. ;)

I'm really proud of you for defending JK out in the "real world." DU is our place to hash out our differences with other Dems, and while that should always be done respectfully and with appreciation for each Dem's contributions and talents, this is definitely a better place to say "I disagree with so-and-so Democrat" than, say, in front of all your friends whose vote you could potentially influence. I NEVER attack a Dem in front of my "real world" friends who may be less politically savvy than me, because I want them to know that ALL Dems are better than ALL Repubs.

:toast:

It's only gonna be natural that we're gonna fight like tigers over favorite candidates here on this board, but when push comes to shove, and we're out there talking to Republicans or swing voters, that's when the Democrat bashing quickly comes to a halt. Here inside this forum, it's only human nature that Kerry, Hillary, Biden, Feinberg, Clark, and the rest are all fair game until the primaries are over, but outside this forum they're sacred, at least when we're talking to the "enemy".

:toast:

First you and I find a point of agreement, and now you and Vektor! Folks, proof that miracles DO happen. :D

I'm REALLY curious about this cryptic thread the two of you keep referencing, I have to admit, however... sounds like I missed a good flamewar! Dammit!

Hey, we're not always going to agree, but it sure is more fun we're were not going at each other's throats! Ouch!! I guess that old saying, "Moderation is the key to everything", really does hold true, even when we lose our tempers. Then again, moderation is easier said than done, sometimes :evilgrin:



Actually, in the thread that was locked, it wasn't us who were flaming. It was other posters this time, lol. We were on our best behaviour O8)

Hey, I need to tell you that a couple times recently when someone else started a thread that got on Kerry's case, I sat back and waited to see you jump into action because I knew you'd be all over their chest the minute you saw it. I gotta admit I kind of got a kick out of you beatin up on them. I'm just glad it wasn't me! :evilgrin:

:hi:

A real hellcat.

And for the record, TOTALLY NOT FAT.

;-)

Sorry - couldn't resist.

I believe ya. On both accounts!

Afterward...I did feel bad that I cracked that joke in the middle of our flamefest, and when I thought about it the next day I was hoping that it didn't pertain in real life because I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings in regards to something like that. Then again, I felt like I was getting mauled up one side of me and clawed down the other, so I just let loose with it....yikes, bad mistake! Knowing that few of us can see each other, I didn't intend for it to be applicable, but the bottom line is that is was wrong of me.

Hey, you guys are cool, and you must be fun to be around in real life. :)

Too much fun, perhaps.

:beer: :spray: :party: :toast:

It means a lot. :hug:

As for the fun... let's just say me + Vek + pints of beer = a good time. I know this from personal experience. :evilgrin:

I don't doubt that for a minute, Wild!

Well, it's gonna be a long day coming up. I can't wait to get to work first thing tomorrow, when I get up at the crack of noon!

:toast:

"Crack of noon"!

Gah! I'm getting up at 5:45 to be at school bright and early to take my final.

Even on the EAST coast you'll still be asleep!

I wish I could really sleep in until the crack of noon today. Unfortunately it's Monday and there's too much work to get caught up on. Damn, this week is going slow!

Good luck on your finals!

I'm up - staggering toward the coffee pot as we speak. x(

I admit I have a hot temper, and JK inspires me so much, so... well, you can see the results. I can be fierce in defending him. (And that's an understatement!) (Ahem, scroll down in this thread. I don't react well to baseless, one-line inane insults. I get, shall we say, perturbed.)

I know you defend Hillary around here sometimes, and well, it's just sort of how I feel about JK. Hillary gets a LOT of unfair bullshit - you can't even mention her NAME without someone saying what a Bushlite DINO she is, and while she's far from my favorite Dem, I understand your urge to defend her. I am definitely a Kerry partisan, but what bugs me isn't that some people prefer another Dem, but rather the baseless knee-jerk Pavlovian crap when his very name is mentioned. That's when I go nuclear.

I am glad you enjoy the carnage from the sidelines, however! :evilgrin:

BTW, did you make that "best friends forever" sticky? LMAO!!! :toast: I love it.

:pals:

particlar sticky, the one you're talking about. I did get one of those messages that Skinner sends out aobut making my stickies, but I haven't taken the time to do it yet. Maybe tomorrow if it's not too late.



You noticed that? :evilgrin: The weird thing is that she's not even my number one choice, although I do like her and I think she'd make a formidable candidate...and like we both know, some of the things people start about her are a total crock, like when they say she's a neocon. Heck, I even have to stick up for Hillary against my dear old mom who's a diehard devoted Democrat all her life, except she can't stand Hillary.

Yeah, neither one of us is too shy when it comes to defending Hillary or Kerry, eh. Plus it's kind of fun. In all honesty, if Hillary wasn't as unpopular as she is on this forum, this place probably wouldn't be quite as much fun! I gotta admit, sometimes I don't mind stirring the pot a little bit by starting a Hillary thread once in a while. Kind of gets the juices flowing during the relatively quiet times. I've got a Hillary thread brewing in mind that I'm thinking about posting sometime soon that'll probably have more than a few people calling for my hide. :evilgrin:

:rofl: For the times when it gets too quiet around here, eh? :evilgrin:

I may have to start another thread devoted to the "Anaconda Menace".

:evilgrin:

people on these boards, along with the smartest and most informed.

You easily meet and resoundingly exceed all criteria, mtnsnake. Not to mention, you are hanging out in conversations with the right people if Vektor is among your correspondents on any given thread. She rocks and she rules.

Thanks to you & all good wishes.

but I always get a little sadder. Damn.

I love it too. One of my favorite pics!

Look, here it is again!

...because I was so entranced by Dean (still am by the way).

John Kerry grew on me. I grew to respect him as I learned more about his honorable military service,
his vision and his policies. I loved his diplomatic, friendly demeanor and his raging intellect. I know
he would have improved our standing in the world and relationships with foreign leaders; relationships
that are currently strained or in the toilet.

I really grew to love Kerry as a candidate during the campaign season.

Furthermore, what touched me the most--was watching Kerry in the process. You could see him falling more
in love with America and her people, as the campaign rolled on. Kerry has been in Washington for a long time;
a career politician. Not that this is a bag thing. However, his work in Washington kept
him hyper focused on inside-the-beltway happenings. He has an impressive legislative record to show for it.

I think Kerry really fell hard for all of us. He listened to our concerns.
He read our signs. He sensed our desperation and our hope in his promise to build a better
America.

I believe he was absolutely devastated by not winning---because his need to win became fueled by our
need for hope and change during devastating times.

Kerry has witnessed the BushCo corruption up close and personal. He understands how corrupt and perverted
those thugs are---more then we ever will. He's seen things that he knows would break all of our hearts--
even more than they are breaking now.

I sensed that he truly wanted to help. I also sensed that the loss was devastating, because he felt
he let us down. He felt more bad for our loss--than for the political loss he experienced.

Yes, Kerry made mistakes. His biggest mistake was underestimating the depths to which his enemies would
sink. When he saw them blatantly lying about him, he tried to take the high road. He decided to
allow the truth to surface and ignore the lying con artists who were inventing absurd stories about him. He
hoped the stories would die down or maybe--that reporters would do their jobs and expose the lies.

That didn't happen, and time ticked on. By then, the lies had been repeated so many times--lesser minds began believing them.

Do I wish Kerry would have fought back more aggressively? Yes. However, he believed he was doing the honorable,
diplomatic thing--by ignoring lying thugs. I can't fault Kerry for making the best decision he could---from a
place of honor and dignity.

No matter what happens in Kerry's future--I'll always have the utmost respect, admiration and empathy for him because
he truly seemed to fall hard for all of us---and want so much to give back America to its citizens.

That--I'll never forget.

I also like that he became a great role model to us by continuing to fight to do what has to be done - when many of us were almost too devastated with the loss.

Great post, thanks.

to imply that John lost the election because he'd acted like a gentleman rather than take the low road and responded to the likes of the Swift-boaters. Does this mean that you doubt the massively fraudulent nature of the election, or that you haven't read any of the huge number of texts on the fraud and voter-suppression before, during and after the election? So that you were unaware of the way in which Kerry was robbed of a landslide victory? I think John Kerry would prefer you to know the truth, than for you to love and admire him for being a loser, but a gentleman.

Your post is beautiful, and is very similar to what I would say (except I didn't start out entranced by Dean - but he's grown on me too).

I think Kerry did more to fight the Swiftlies than most people realize. The problem is that the media amplified the lies, yet ignored the responses. There were people who served with Kerry coming out of the woodwork to say that the lies were bullshit, but maybe they'd get a sentence on one or two newscasts. While the lies themselves were being drilled day in day out, not only by the right-wing media machine, but also outlets like MSNBC and CBS. To get the same coverage the K/E04 campaign would have had to spend HUGE sums on advertising - to get what the Swiftlies were getting for free.

Kerry says next time they'll put more money into the fight against the lies. But I don't think money will be enough. We need the whole Dem party machine to figure out how to fight this shit - without having to spend gobs more money than the repukes do - or no candidate we put up will be able to win.

credibility that the news stations had earned over decades.

"While the lies themselves were being drilled day in day out, not only by the right-wing media machine, but also outlets like MSNBC and CBS. To get the same coverage the K/E04 campaign would have had to spend HUGE sums on advertising - to get what the Swiftlies were getting for free."

kicked and recommended!:kick: :hi:

All I'm going to say is this: if you want to know what a man is really like, look at who is enemies are. Judging by the kind of people who slam Kerry both from the left and the right, that's a pretty good indicator of just how great Kerry is. Not to mention all that other stuff that I don't have time to go into right now.

Kicked and recommended.

Smoking? Gambling? Chewing his cuticles?

Can you elaborate and provide some sources to support your assertion?

:hi:

:hi:

:hi:

I thought you were running along. You did wish me a nice day and wave goodbye, after all.

Or have you decided you want to attempt to justify your hit and run, substance-free assertion with a fact or two? Quit what precisely? Links, sources, facts? Do you have anything to contribute?

You pretend not to know what "He quit" means, and you want me to take you seriously?

Why don't you back up your assertion with FACTS and clarification?

Nice try, but so obviously wrong. You'd have to tell us WHAT he quit in order to have a hope of proving it as fact.

"He quit" is SO NOT a fact. It's two words strung together by someone who appears to have been drinking.

Wow. I feel sorry for you. If this is the intellect of the average Kerry basher, then those of us on the side of truth won't have much trouble at all making you look ridiculous.

Sniff.

A persistent sniffle is usually a sign of overuse of cocaine.

Playing badminton?

What is a fact? Generally, people can provide PROOF of facts. I'm still waiting for proof that Kerry "quit" badminton.

But I don't know why someone would be THAT upset that Kerry quit playing badminton. I mean, being a Senator is a demanding job. He probably wanted to spend a little more time on racquetball.

I agree with Vektor. Your argument is weak, your command of the facts non-existant and you pretend that everyone should know what you are talking about when you won't even say what it is you are talking about. Then you feign innocence and pretend that you are being misunderstood.

This is like getting a recipe that says:

Take ingredients and mix them together.

Only it doesn't list the ingredients. What kind of a recipe is that?

If you have an argument, present it. Otherwise stop pretending to be offended when other people can't figure out what you are saying. You didn't actually say anything. This isn't the Psychic News Network, it's a DU forum and we can't read your mind.

Do you have ability to do that? If not, you need to refrain from hit and run jabs that have no validity. I'm not the one that needs to worry about being taken seriously. You are the one that blurted out a cryptic two word accusation with absolutely no explanation of what you were talking about. Unless you have some credible source to site and an explanation of where you are coming from with that bilge, your opinion is completely invalid. Sorry.

You claim not to know what "He quit" means. That is a level of disingenuousness beggars any attempt at honest discussion.

As is this statement:

"That is a level of disingenuousness beggars any attempt at honest discussio n."

WTF?!!?!

I'd never assume to know what another person is talking about. They would be presumptuous of me. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you YET AGAIN to back up your cryptic baseless assertion with facts.

Unless of course you cannot.

Referring to John Kerry, of course.
:rofl::rofl:

Nothing but a bunch of cyclic gibberish. Sad.

And a direct observation is hardly name calling.

Now, why don't you tell us WHAT he quit.

Still waiting.

Which you still have proven yourself unable to support.

Did he "quit beating his wife yet"? That's about the kind of logical fallacy I'm coming to expect from you.

what your problem is?

Are you a radical badmintonista or something?

:shrug:

:rofl:

It sucks, as does your cyclic logic.

I thought you said "bye" down thread. Are you a masochist?

Maybe you could ease your boredom by trying to find some sources to back up your "he quit" nonsense.

Or are you just a goofy kid who likes to stir shit but has no real opinions?

Ain't that something?

Seriously. Do you have anything of substance to contribute? Because if not, this :hi: DOES mean goodbye.

:hi: combined with "Have a nice day" does signify goodbye.

And I'm not sure what your post meant either. Could you elaborate?

Thanks.

It is indeed time for you to run along.

Your childish gibberish is mind-boggling.

Maybe you could go and try to search for a fact or two!

Any thinking at all is a good thing, I always say.

Thanks.

You seem good at that, at least.

You are engaging in conversational masturbation with yourself and looking like a real fool doing it. You are getting owned. Just because we all pointed out your idiocy hardly means you are "playing" with us.

And it's really sad that you still can't back up your original claim.

Because that's the real gist here.

Though you keep trying to veer off topic.

Can you back up your B.S. or not? If not, take a hike.

How many opportunities do you want to try to back up your silly, childish nonsensical assertion?

Please come back when you actually have a single source to your name.

Congratulations on proving once again that you don't have JACK SHIT.

if you're capable.

And while you're at it, think about how funny it is that every time you post your asinine bilge, you do us all the double pleasure of both reiterating that you haven't a single fact or source to back up your lame ass claim, AND you kick a pro-Kerry thread!

Then, while you're at it, if you still have a brain cell left after all that deep introspection, ask yourself how it feels being a patsy butt-boy for every Kerry supporter on this board - because by kicking this thread over and over, all the while making a fool of yourself, that's just what you are.

Because you are content in being forever known as the dumb-ass that made a ridiculous, two-word non-sequitor then couldn't pull a single fact out of his sorry ass to back it up.

Quit what, genius? Quit what?

And my work will be done here!

:toast:

Remember, you've got to go to second grade tomorrow... better make sure you get plenty of rest! Don't forget to leave your nite-lite on so you don't get scared of the dark.

Seriously, wtf are you talking about?

Kerry's been busting his ass. He didn't "quit" anything.

Why don't you back up your claim?

Because you can't. But you keep posting silly one liners as if we should interpret wtf you are saying.

Meanwhile you can't even decide whether you are coming or going. (Hi? Bye? ...hmmm....which is it?)

:rofl:

Yep, have a nice day.

:hi:

Now how would you feel if some of us were to jump into a thread about this person (assuming there is someone who actually impresses you) and knock them?

How about a new twist on an old adage: if you don't have anything good to say about one of our Dems, then don't say anything at all.

This is a post about a Democrat supporting other Democrats. If you aren't here to support, why post? If you have something to contribute on the subject that would be one thing, but to use the thread as a platform upon which to whine is a bit boorish.

and contributions to 2006 candidates.:toast: :applause:

The propane and propane accessories guy?

was a very bad attempt at humor. (re: King of the Hill)

what he promised. He is Keeping America's Promise one day at a time!

:applause: :patriot:

:applause:

So many passionate Kerry fans here. This is good because we need to stand by John Kerry. He's out there doing this stuff for us. We need to have his back. Good place. Some good smack downs too. :)