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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:41 PM
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Poll question: What do you dislike most about the religious right?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:42 PM
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1. All of the above!
They are truly a frothy sickening mix of so many ugly traits.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:44 PM
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2. I second your motion n/t
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:15 PM
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26. couldn't vote - no "All of the Above" option!
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:44 PM
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3. I agree... all of the above. n/t
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:45 PM
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4. Other: That they are neither.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:45 PM
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5. Like Placebo, 'All of the Above' works for me. Also I think they
do themselves a tremendous disservice by preaching against Harry Potter books and Hallowe'en.

That's the most fun time of the year for a lot of kids and here there dreary-ass fundies are spoiling even THAT.

Shame on them.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:28 PM
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21. Hi Old C!
it's me again......LOL :hi:

I hate how they think they own God,

the flag,patriotism,the White House,the courts,both houses of congress,all elections,the "news",the tv talk shows,the shoving their beliefs down our throats trying to make us all believe that it's their way or no way.......

in other words I hate how they have hi-jacked EVERYTHING. :banghead:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:22 AM
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30. Yes, ma'am. They DO like shoving things down our throats,
and you are right to call them on it.

Hi right back & good wishes! :thumbsup:

:hi:
:dem:
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:45 PM
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6. Their opposition to separation of church and state. nt.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:46 PM
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7. arrogant hypocrisy
empty zealotry, bigotry.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:55 PM
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14. I second this one. eom
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:46 PM
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8. Other
All they do is condemn other people's actions. I believe that was the exact opposite of Jesus. He without sin shall cast the first stone.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:46 PM
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9. They are the shock troops for the 4th Reich
Edited on Sun May-21-06 09:47 PM by The Sushi Bandit
they are coming to get us ALL.

they are a cancer, a lethal virus, a mental illness, and most of all un-god-like
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:51 PM
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10. All of the above AND
their inability to shut the fuck up about it. I can't believe there is a single living human on the planet who does not at this time know where to go find Jesus if they are so inclined. It has driven me from sick of it to needing to remove myself from religious discussion entirely with those that want to evangelize me. The only remaining family I have are evangelical missionaries who want to take me to a wacko church and have me healed, not certain what from but maybe my nasty attitude?

I BELIEVE but that is never ever enough.

If I offended anyone I am sorry. When my brother was dying they decided to use that time to try to get to me. I have little tolerance for their kind anymore. AND all of the above.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:53 PM
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11. They are clones of the Taliban and the Wahabbis
and they all will murder millions in the name of their gods.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:54 PM
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12. Other: the belief that THEIR beliefs should be passed into law for all
Americans to have to live by. The idea of codifying their narrow view of Christianity into laws and creating a theocracy in subversion of the Constitution is what I dislike most. All that is listed in the polls are symptoms/actions based on the politicized religious right's efforts to legislate their narrow view of Christianity onto all other Americans.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:55 PM
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13. They Are Trying to Turn Our Country into a Theocracy (+ All of the Above)
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:58 PM
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15. Other-- By their actions they have stolen...
my religion from me and so many millions of others.

They have reduced Christianity to a series of slogans and bumperstickers and have lost its meaning.

They have made it a laughingstock and have made many of us ashamed to be associated with them.

They have preached a religion of hate and divisiveness, and have denigrated love and inclusivenes.

After so many centuries of religious acrimony, they have refused to learn the lessons of history and risk bringing back the dark days of Inquisition and witchhunts.





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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:05 PM
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16. Most excellent post!
I have known many wonderful Christians and none of them back the theocratic push by the religious fanatic right and George Bush.

One thing I will give the LDS (Mormons), they refuse to accept tax monies or federal control.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:14 AM
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36. Are you saying you won't go to church because you don't want to
be associated with them but you are a Christian? You could always go Methodist or Episcopalian, (What Robing Williams refers to as "Catholic light)
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:42 AM
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43. That's ROBIN WILLIAMS - edit time has past.
:banghead: WHY is there a limit on edit times????
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:51 AM
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44. Huh? No, I have as little to do with...
the regressive fundamentalist churches as possible. Those are the ones I find to be an embarassment, and I resent some people identifying me with them.

I am a member of a Quaker meeting, and am currently attending a local UU church. I have worked on progressive issues with various Reformed, Congregational (UCC), Methodist, Catholic and Presbyterian churches and am looking to find a few others.

Where I'm living now, though, progressive churches are at a premium. There are a few UCCs and UUs and some very small Quaker meetings, but it's a fairly conservative area overall.







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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:10 PM
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17. Mainly it's the bossiness.
They can do what they like, as long as they don't bully everyone else.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:12 PM
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18. Another vote for All of the Above.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:13 PM
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19. Their complete and utter hypocrisy
in everything.

Their entire belief system, their goals, their values, their brainwashing techniques, their obnoxiousness, their idiocy, their sheeple attitude, their lack of empathy, their pomposity, their fantasy world, their lies, their vivesection of the bible, their lack of consistency and well--just about everything. When you put someone like Pat Robertson at the head of the RRR, it's very easy to despise everything they stand for.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:19 AM
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37. "their lack of empathy" Excellent point! That "hate the sin but not
the sinner"is just a facade for the anti-gays so they can swim in their hate. How many deaths has that one line caused?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:16 PM
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20. All of the Above!
I think a "what would Jesus do" saying is appropriate here...
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:31 PM
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22. All of the above PLUS
the way they presume to speak for all Christians.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:34 PM
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23. Their Bypass of logic and reason
and their complete inability to subject their beliefs to any analysis whatsoever. And encouraging this mental desert in all others they meet.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:46 PM
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24. It's the Hypocrisy Stupid
Not meant to imply the op is stupid , just used
for emphasis;-)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:57 PM
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25. Other: I know you asked for the ONE most disliked...
But all of the above irk me :hi:
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:36 PM
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27. All the above!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:12 AM
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28. abusing people trust with their spirituality. i see no greater
responsiblity from anyone than the minister owning the trust of the people that he preaches to. and ot take them away from christs lite instead of to christ is the worst in my book
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:21 AM
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29. My problems with the Religious Reichstag:
Their insistance of trying to ram their beliefs down everyone's throat. I resent the hell out of that.

At my last job, I was taking an order over the telephone. The gentleman on the other end asks me if I had Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior. I told him this was not the time or place to discuss that. Personally, your religious beliefs are personal and are between you and your higher power. I resented the hwll out of that too.

The smug, superior attitudes that some Christians have about being saved. I know they're not perfect. Some in the religious reichstag use their religion as an EZ-Pass for getting away with almost murder.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:26 AM
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31. Other: Their support of Republican candidates (nt)
nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:34 AM
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32. Other...their arrogant self-righteousness and hypocrisy.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:43 AM
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33. Other: cramming their beliefs down our throats
Actually, this is a beef with christianity itself: the self-proclaimed right to intrude on everyone with their supernatural worldview. Many are not intrusive, but it's an inherent part of the faith to go forth and convert. It's tiresome.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:52 AM
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34.  You don't have one for sanctimonious, self righteous, judgmental
pompous or cliquey
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:53 AM
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35. Right now it's.......
the way they constantly speak for God, saying God wants this or God thinks that. Where do they get off speaking for God? Why doesn't anyone call them on it?

When you think about it, this behavior on their part is outrageous!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:30 AM
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38. the fact that even though you may have never, ever met them
they are thinking every minute of the day about your hoo-ha and wee-wee.

and what you do with your hoo-ha and wee-wee.

i mean they really, really do think about what you do with your naughty bits.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:40 AM
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42. OMG that is funny!
:rofl: I NEVER thought of that but geeze you may be right!

When gays think about being gay it is about family and friends and life. The hoo-ha and wee-wee parts consume about the same time that straights think about them.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:13 PM
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47. somebody should really put it like that in public discourse.
i'd love for a woman to tell some fundy to stop thinking about her hoo-ha.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:46 PM
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50. "It offends me that your regard toward me is a sexual one. I am a person
not a sex object"

"Stop using me as your "politically correct" excuse to talk about sex"

Just playing with the idea here. Would be great to see on a bumper sticker.
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Grebrook Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:47 AM
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39. Anti-Catholicism beneath the "brotherly Christian" love-dove crap
What I've always found most insidious about the religiosu right is their disengenuous attempts to reach out to Catholics and to try to trick Catholics into believing there is room in the religious right's manifold, by focusing on social issues, knowing that Catholics must be:

1.) Against the death penalty
2.) Against the Iraq War and most aggressive, unnecessary wars in general (what John Paul II affirmed)
3.) Willing to tackle poverty and condemn greed and selfish libertarian politics
4.) Respect Jews and not support Israel for the right reasons but simply out of a hideous desire to see Jesus come down out of the sky and promptly throw the Jews into fiery hell for all of eternity
5.) Willing to accept fellow Catholics of all colors from Latin America and Africa, whereas most Protestant Fundamentalist Conservatives are disgruntled white men who hate European-Protestant immigrants, much less brown skinned Catholics
6.) Supportive of those Catholics in Northern Ireland who have been oppressed, while Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson prefer to buddy up to bloodthirsty scum like Ian "kill-all-papists" Paisley
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:54 AM
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45. Welcome to DU Grebrook! And very interesting post.
I had many Catholic friends growing up and none of them were like these right winged fundies. Now that I am in the south it seems like there are more Baptists than anything.

All of those things you listed ARE Catholic beliefs yet the fundies try and stuff them aside and include Catholics in their numbers - like the emails I get that way %85 of Americans believe in God as if everyone wants to turn the US into a Theocracy. It is really a very small % of people who believe this but they do things to make themselves look bigger.

The fundies need to be reminded that Catholics do not approve of war or the death penalty.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:10 PM
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67. welcome to the site!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:48 AM
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40. The way they think their way is the only right way
Edited on Mon May-22-06 10:50 AM by StopThePendulum
Hatred for people of different religions, or even different ideological positions within their own religion.

The only difference between the Religious Right in the US and Islamic extremists in the Middle East is the religion. Both are willing to use terrorism to achieve their goals.
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Marymarg Donating Member (773 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:10 AM
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41. Amen! n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:01 PM
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46. Simply everything! And after seeing "DaVinci Code," (semi-fictional), or
not...I finally 'see' the Pagan-root in Christianity throug history. Extremely so in Religious Right. (i.e., Robertson's quotes on "killing world leaders, or Shrub and Pickle's "sign" to the camera of that hand sign (two opposing fingers up). A sign denoting pagan worship...but instead "defended" by their press "contacts" rather unconvincingly as support for a Texas sports team.

Aside from "accidentally" running over her "ex" boyfriend, Pickles has that UNDENIABLE 'serpant' look; and Shrub's reference to personal conversations wit God, justifying War, and approving torturure...do NOT at all allign with TRUE religious devotion, but rather the "Paganistic" basis of Christianity as explained in "DaVinci Code."

In short, the Religious Right, scares the be-jeeesus out of me.
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 02:22 PM
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48. part of the problem with polls...
is that now some right wing nut job can come along and try to claim that 73% of the poll takers here who chose - "other" - perhaps do not have a problem with all the above - although many commented that they would have preferred to answer - "all of the above" - besides nearly a 100% of polls having some sort of bias built in - the results can also always be taken out of context...
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:00 PM
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49. ALL OF THE ABOVE... plus,
hijacking the Constitution, obliterating the seperation of Church and State, Chastity pledges, prosthletizing in return for aid to the poor in other countries, and on and on.

TC
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:51 PM
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51. That they are neither religious nor right
I dislike the fact that "religious right" do not appear to be religous or right.

Jesus said love others as I have loved you - pretty simple to me. He did not say love others (except if they are gay, or poor, or without healthcare, a home or jobs, or a minority or preganant). He did not say only love white guys who are rich.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:15 PM
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52. Other: They're trying to shove THEIR religion down OUR throats!
Even when WE don't want it!

Their forceful intolerance.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:32 PM
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53. They are trying to create a theocracy based on the most narrow, shallow
and piss-poor theology imaginable.

Why is it so easy for so many 'Christians' to marginalize Christ??? They'll quote OT passages and St. Paul 'til the cows come home, but I rarely hear the reich-wingers repeating anything JESUS said...
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tirechewer Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 06:00 AM
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54. I picked "other".....
All of the above and their unending, unyielding conviction that they think they know what is "right" for all of us even if they have to kill us to prove it.

I get the same feeling from them that I get in an overcrowded elevator. Claustrophobia.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 06:08 AM
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55. Other=all of the above.
Not only am I a lesbian, but I'm all for sex toys and think the world needs better porn. This is in addition, to supporting birth control, HPV vaccines, abortion, free speech etc.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:09 AM
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56. All of the above
and more
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:16 AM
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57. Their proud ignorance & arrogant self-righteousness.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:49 AM
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58. Their lies and bullshit about the First Amendment...
You can look up a talking point of theirs right here on this board, sad really.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:02 AM
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59. The hypocrisy.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 09:23 AM
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60. Their presumption that any of these issues are their business
Homosexuality, abortion, HPV vaccines, etc. They are all matters of privacy.

I don't get why people can't deal with gays. Who cares? I'd rather live next door to gay people than the fighting crackhead straight couple I currently have as neighbors. I'd trust the average gay person to babysit before I'd trust my current neighbors, too.

I understand their problems with abortion, even if I disagree with them. I don't have a problem with them criticizing it, I have a problem with them trying to make it illegal.

The HPV vaccine controversy is just insane on their part.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:00 AM
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61. If I had to narrow my loathing of the religious right to one thing........
....it would be their automatic assumption that whatever they choose to say or do is right and proper and that anyone who disagrees deserves every vile and belittling treatment they can dream up.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 11:22 AM
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62. "Other"
The fact that they are attempting to force me (and everyone else) to live my life by their religous interpretation is the thing that pisses me off most.

They need to stay the fuck out of my religious life.

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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 02:29 PM
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63. The hypocrisy.
For instance, how they are so bent out of shape about a fetus getting aborted, but don't care at all about people dying every day b/c they can't afford medical care.


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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 04:17 PM
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65. Same here.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 03:58 PM
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64. In one word,
Everything!
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 06:45 PM
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66. Tie between Gays and Abortion
Since these are the two issues they REFUSE to budge on.
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