20.47 Miles of a Single, 6 foot high, Chain-link fence cost $648,364.12!!!

I was just listening to and radio program which had F***ing Charles Krauthammer as one of the guests in support of a Boarder fence. Something he never was asked or volunteered to guess was, how much one would it cost.

I would love to ask Charles Krauthammer and the RWer's who think like him, who's going to pay for this so-called fence that he is misleading his readers and listeners into thinking would be so easy to build?

So, I did a little Googleing, and I found an on-line price estimator for a simple, 6 foot high, chain link fence, to get some idea how much that would cost.

Yes I know a fence along the Mexican Border would have to be more elaborate that a 6 foot high chain link fence, hell, this estimate doesn't even take into account the Barbed wire at the top, but just 20.47 miles of this fence (with 10 drive gates at 10 feet wide) would cost over a half of a Million Dollars ($648,364.12).

Any math wizards out there who want to calculate the rest of the costs? What do we need, another 2000 mile or so?

Here's the link, and the Material List the site came up with:

<http://www.hooverfence.com/forms/clest.htm>


Material List
Based on what you entered, you need the following...

* Total footage = 108000 feet (plus gates, if any) with posts spaced a maximum of 10.00' apart.

* 108000' - 6' high x 11.5 ga. galv. chain link @2.889 ft. $312011.99
* 108000' - 1 3/8" O.D. x .065 wall top rail @ 1.297 ft. $140091.42
* 54000 - 1 5/8" aluminum tie wire (for top rail) @0.10 ea. $5400.00
* 14 - 2 1/2" x 8'6" .065 terminal post @ 22.07 ea. $132.42
* 14 - 2 1/2" post cap, aluminum acorn @1.18 ea. $7.08
* 10788 - 2" x 8' .065 line post @ 15.34 ea. $165487.92
* 10788 - 2" x 1 3/8" aluminum loop cap @1.65 ea. $17800.20
* 53940 - 2" aluminum tie wire (for line posts) @0.10 ea. $5394.00
* 24 - 6' tension bar @1.95 ea. $46.80
* 120 - 2 1/2" tension band @0.32 ea. $38.40
* 24 - 2 1/2" brace band @0.35 ea. $8.40
* 24 - 1 3/8" aluminum rail end cup @0.94 ea. $22.56
* 144 - 5/16" x 1 1/4" carriage bolt/nut @0.15 ea. $21.60
* 10 - 6' x 10' wide double swing gate @175.97 ea. $1759.70
* 10 - 2 1/2" x 1 3/8" double swing gate hardware @14.16 ea. $141.60

* You may qualify for free shipping or quantity discount on this amount.

Total Price: $648364.12 f.o.b. Newton Falls, Ohio 44444

Prices subject to change without notice. Although this material list indicates exact quantities required, we sell chain link fabric and top rail in full rolls and lengths only; 50' and 21' respectively. Shipping and applicable sales tax are extra. Sorry, we do not install. Compliments: Hoover Fence Co. P.O. Box 563, Newton Falls, Ohio 44444 Voice: 1-800-355-2335, Fax: (330) 358-2624 Prepared for: anonymous, a President of the United States from Texas

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What, no cutters? Ya got five or ten guys, how long is it gonna take for them to DIG UNDER this folly with their BARE HANDS?

Idiots. Fools.

Ya wanna stop this influx? Arrest a mere hundred EMPLOYERS, fine them all a hundred thou, and toss 'em in jail for a MINIMUM one year sentence--no exceptions. Keep doing it, every day, at every opportunity. Five here, ten there. Watch the problem go away!

These folks aren't coming here for the scenery or the loving bosom of the American Family. They are here to WORK, and support THEIR families. They don't want to necessarily BE American, they want to be able to BUY STUFF like Americans. It's a huge difference. And it's also wrong to blame them.

Ya don't want the kid to grab the cookies, don't leave the plate full of them next to the toybox. And don't leave the playroom unlocked, if ya don't want the kid in there without your say-so.

This is America and you're suggesting we arrest AMERICANS???!!!

:crazy:

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This is all about supply & demand. There are people in the United States who WANT to hire illegal immigrants - using this work force means they don't have to pay taxes on them, no health insurance, no minimum wage laws, no safety regulation laws and probably a host of other laws being tossed to the wayside because hey - they're illegal if they don't like it they can go back to their own country. These illegals increases American business owners profit line.

So how do we solve the problem? We arrest the illegal immigrants who come here because there is a demand for these extra cheap labor. But the people who hire them get off scott free and are probably the same republicans who write letters to the editors complaining about illegals aliens and how they are ruining this nation

Wow.

There's plenty of cheap immigrant labor in that part of the country. :sarcasm:

:banghead:

I've seen the work of Kellogg, Brown and Root -- third rate, cheap material and over priced. WAY over priced.

K B and R goes in often no bid to an area that has been hit by a natural (or man made) disaster and puts up quick buildings (boxes -- crap). They make money off of misery. The British government is just as likely to us KB &R as is the US -- no bid. Just give 'em an open ended contract -- apparently.

. . . www.haliburton.fence.company.org.

...And 176 Jobs open in Afghanistan! <http://kbrcareers.webrecruiter.com/pls/kbr/maine.d?s=146BC53E314A6D85E0440003BA74E87F>

Who's going!

I have been unemployed for a year, but I'd sooner starve than take a job, for any price, in the fucked-up Middle East! You think I wanna end up the next unfortunate beheading victim?? I don't fuckin' think so!!

...I'm about a month away from having to enter the Day-laborer job pool or something.

But maybe that's their plan. :-(

except for the fact that my mom is letting live back at home, rent-free, while I try to finish an online class for Medical Transcription, which promises one-year job placement assistance after graduation.

As it is now, I'm currently on county assistance, my SSI-Disability case is still pending, I'm massively depressed, because of lack of a job/significant income...I just hate this fucking country anymore, I really do.

Many of my close friends are waist-deep in 6-figure educational loan debt, with advanced degrees in many cases, but because they have the sheer audacity to (shock! horror!) ask for a LIVING WAGE, they can't get a job anywhere, so they just slip progressively further down. It's a disaster for them, and I've seen a number of broken marriages and other problems as a result.

In fact, the US has recently, apparently, experienced a spike in emigration, despite all the bogus numbers touting how everything's fine and dandy in economy-land. Other advanced economies like France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Taiwan, Singapore and Sweden have been recruiting top American talent since people here have become so fed-up with the way we're being used. In Europe and much of East Asia, they actually care for and respect their workers-- not here in the US anymore, we're just cheap, expendable commodities.

As one of my economist friends recently told me, maybe the best investment you can make in your future these days is to learn a foreign language like French, Italian or German. It makes the emigration process smoother. Unbelievable the damage that Shrub and his fellow idiots have done to this country, and at this point-- with $9 trillion in debt and bloody foreign wars with no victory in sight-- it's only going to get worse, and is beyond repair.

I have a friend who married a person with dual Irish/American citizenship, and he is considering retiring to Ireland. I might see if I could get him to sponsor me. I've fucking had it with the trolls that have ruined this once-great country. Screw it, let them have it, and let them kill one another - fighting over the rancid bits of what's left of a once-great nation...i'll go somewhere where workers are respected, treated fairly, and paid adequately.

To hell with America.
There, I said it. Now come get me, Agent Mike. This country fuckin' sucks!

sure no one cuts a hole in it or climbs over it. And unless we are willing to shoot people even guards will not keep people from getting through. Otherwise wherever it isn't guarded, that fence will keep people from coming through for about as long as it takes for the construction crew to disappear around the bend. This is absolute folly.

Without, I would think so, but a single stick of dynamite and POOF! Big hole.

One chain link fence wouldn't do much. The proposal is for at least 2 or 3 lines of fence/walls. I believe the intent is to have motion detectors between the walls so that the Border Patrol knows when someone is trying to cross the barrier.

...I didn't even look too see how much 5000 miles of coiled Razor-wire would cost either.

Krauthammer avoided that question by saying, "Oh, how many per boat?" "I mean look, what we're talking about is taking a River, a torrent, which is totally out of control, and turning it into a few streams and trickals..."

And we all know that "...a few Streams..." are so much easier than controlling "...A River." :eyes:

Here's a link to the audio, if you want to subject yourself to it: <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5422692>

He says that at about 22:30 into the clip.

I predict they'd get 20% completed before they burn through the entire funding.

Conservatives, messengers of hope, would be quick to highlight the fact that we might qualify for free shipping!

Someone has to produce all that fencing! :think:

Knowing these Bozos, it would probably all come from China.

and all the construction jobs would go to Mexicans.

it would come from the nephew of some corrupt motherfucking Republican Congressman who just happened to be in the fencing business!

According to Molly Ivans: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060522_molly_ivins_racist/

Which rounds out to 62,432,000,000.

Wonder what we could do for the economic situation in Mexico with that much money.

Works out to $587.00 per Mexican Citizen.

Factor in KBR and you'll need to multiply this by about 50x.:evilfrown:

Report the good news already. Stop with the gloom and doom.

http://www.warisaracket.com/

Smedley Darlington Butler
Major General - United States Marine Corps, Retired

Awarded two congressional medals of honor

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Anyone who works for a company that sells anything from screws to toilet paper can tell you that they always pay at least 5 times what any material is actualy worth.

and stock it with alligators and piranha?:sarcasm:

...but knowing how much they need water down there, the thing would keep running dry, due to everyone stealing the water for irrigation.:evilgrin: