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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:46 AM
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Wash. Journal: "Ken Lay was just a mid-level criminal".
The stupidness astounds me, and Brian Lamb must be in the hurt locker, having to listen and chat about crooks tied to the BFEE! :evilgrin:
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:47 AM
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1. How can the CEO be "mid-level"
He was the number one guy on Bush's money tree.
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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:49 AM
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2. When you consider Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, etc.
Lay actually is "mid-level."
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 02:28 PM
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23. my thoughts too. They named a couple
of different mid level crooks today on Democracy Now. Phil and Wendy Grahmn. These two slease ball crooks set it up for Enron to happen. She was on the regulatory commission that allowed the deregulation and Phil was in the senate pushing it through. As soon as it was done, Wendy got a job on the Enron board. Investigations started to heat up and Phil gave up his senate seat, and today they are doing faux jobs for lots of money that was ultimately stolen from us the tax payer. I wonder if it is possible to root out the corruption of this gang. It runs so deep and there are so many branches.
:argh:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:58 AM
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8. A mid-level employee who receives million dollar bonuses.
I can't wait to hear what the top-level employee receives. His own country?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:50 AM
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16. No, his own continent, but they're running out of them. Halliburton CEOs
have first dibs!
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:49 AM
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3. Geeeee you must of missed mr rocket scientist, Ken Lay was just
an innocent guy who liberals Dem's targeted for a take down. He was making to much money so liberal Dem's had to stop him.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:57 AM
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7. Oh, the inhumanity of liberals! Yes, I missed that one, but
thanks for sharing. It's comical, yet disturbing.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:00 AM
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9. He was something like the second or third caller, I almost threw the TV
out the window during his tirade.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:51 AM
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4. Saying it will make it so
But the writer is also clicking his/her heels together, trying like hell to get this whole mess back to Kansas.

Frankly, they can call Kenny Boy "The Great White Hope" for all I care.

I call him "GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!!!!!!!!"

I can live with that.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:52 AM
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6. Morning Grannie, how have you been?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:10 AM
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11. The outcome was a thing of beauty, OLL! All the naysayers
who thought Texas wouldn't do the right thing were most probably surprised!
I'm still smiling!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:32 AM
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13. You know what surprised this old trial lawyer?
The speed with which the jury came back.

After a four-month trial, six days to come back is remarkable.

I think Lay and Skilling were guilty the minute they chose to have the trial in Houston. Everyone there knew what they did, and that jury wasn't going to do anything but convict.

There was, though, a compelling article on the front page of this morning's Post about how much damage the convicted felons (has a ring, don't it?) did to themselves by taking the stand.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052502100_pf.html

Their lawyers really didn't get it, I think. It would appear they never gauged the rage against Enron that will always be there in Houston, especially.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:43 AM
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14. FWIW, they did try to get the trial moved away from Houston, but
the judge didn't buy it. Smart judge! :evilgrin:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:54 AM
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17. He denied a change of venue?
Oh, appealable error.

Ewwwww.

I hadn't followed it, so I hadn't known that.

I don't like that.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:59 AM
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19. Yep.t they did try to relocate the trial.
No dice. The judge's reasons must have been logical enough at the time, but if it doesn't work out in their favor because of the venue, it's appealable? That sucks. :(
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:51 AM
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5. TGIFF - Thank God It's Fascist Friday
Some of these people are just unbelievably stupid.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:07 AM
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10. He was just a soldier, obeying orders.
:sarcasm:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:11 AM
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12. A guy..
... transporting a couple pounds of pot is also a "mid-level criminal", and he can get 10 years in prison for doing it.

What's their point.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:49 AM
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15. The sheer amount of money he pillaged puts him in the ......
Criminal Hall of Fame.

Mid level my ass. Tell that to the people whos retirements that disappeared overnight.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:56 AM
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18. Do they have "mid-level" prisons?
For mid-level criminals?

I don't think so!

Doing time is doing time.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:01 AM
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20. Sure they do. Haven't you heard of the 'country club' prisons?
But if you're stuck anywhere for 30+ years, it's got to get old.
But wait! Dimson will probably pardon him/them. :eyes:
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:18 AM
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21. New term...."Enron Estates"
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 02:43 PM
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25. I don't think so
but maybe he can get a middle bunk between his 2 new "husbands."
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:52 AM
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22. You're right.. mid level
compared to the Trilateral commission made up of multinational corporations controlling governments now like Carlyle, etc.

in the carlyle world, people like bush sr. are puppets, they have them in every country , puppets to do their will, for instance, creating a panglobal telecommunications carrier that is not able to be intercepted or monitored by any government but can be used by their corporate crony organizations to get away with raping and pillaging the masses...

ken lay was actualy more like a worker bee.. in the hierarchy of the corrupt...... the folks pulling lay's strings are still not in jail and usually never in the limelight....
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 02:36 PM
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24. Oh yeah? Let's see Unka Dicks Energy Papers and see how "mid-level"
he was. Part of the reason we went to bomb Afganistan was because Cheney promised the trans-Afghan gas pipeline to Kenny Boy to help him corner the Asian market. He was in deep doodoo with his company in India and was desperate for the pipeline across Afghanistan.
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