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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:12 PM
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Behind Conpiracy Lies A Boatload of Hate
At least in these;

1)Activist Judges (Women, Gays, Blacks)

2) Liberal Media (Blacks)

3) 9/11 theories (Jews)

4) The gay agenda

5) Christian hatred

There seems to be a lot of them floating around these days. I'm not talking about the ones relating to a "third shooter" and the "grassy knoll". Every 9/11 theory I have read seems to somehow stem from a ridiculous Jewish conspiracy. Those are the ones that raise the ears of this old dog and I am constantly reading between the lines.

Considering the fact that we live in a world where both political parties have gone mad with greed, it seems that where hate groups have figured out a way to latch onto various constituencies. There is growing frustration with Israel (which stems from geograghy and military industrial complex) and lack of control of ones own life course (Which leads into controling various minority groups for exploitation.).

I guess control would be the underpinning factor in all of these. Not to mention what people are brought up to percieve that the actions of those in power are based on morals. When they find out it's "greed" it becomes almost like a childs rejection of the concept that Sant Clause does not exist. All that anger and frustration seems to manifest itself in other ways that misdirect the prime causes of their frustration.

The government and those that make up this body are guided by self interested assholes that seek to bolster their own wallet. The protocol for dealing with this difunction is to put across the idea to the public that they are somehow capable of acting morally. It's obvious that those instigated the Iraq war were acting on their self interests just as those that supply weapons and money to Israel act in the same. This is where the 9/11 conspiracy whackjobs seem to be taking advantage of others that are frustrated with the current establishment. Those of us that know this had nothing to do with Jews and everything to do with a greedy military industrial complex are labled as "America haters". This would be by both sects (The greedy bastards passing this off as a moral issue and those that blame jews for 9/11 through conspiracy theories. Funny, both are guided by an obsession with nationalism!!!!)

For centuries there were plenty of laws used to subjugate blacks in order to bolster profits. We call it slavery and Jim Crowe. Although we have dealt with some socio/political aspect that kept blacks down we have yet to cover the economical ramifications.

Women still get the shaft on a daily basis. They make 75 cents on the dollar to their male counter parts. Now abortion has come under fire and that sets things backwards. Sojourner Truth was so far ahead of her time on this issue that it's fuckin creepy.


Then we have those that spout "christian hatred" ( Think Orwell, "war is peace") which isn't about christian hatred but their hatred of everybody else. I'm talking bout Gays, Atheists, Jews, and Muslims. Not to mention other Christians that don't follow their Hard Line.

Now their is hatred for illegal immigrants which in some respects is close to the point but all that anger is misdirected by those with a heart full of hate. We are now about to construct a fence/wall. This issue was framed to seem like it was concern for those that are exploited and justice to be doled out to those exploiting. Yet, instead of victims standing together to take on the man we have victims blaming victims. I guess that comes from the fact that it's difficult for people to see themselves as the same victim. An issue that should be focused on exploitation and repairing a flawed economic system is now about victimizing more victims.

The world has gone crazy with hatred.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:19 PM
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1. Those that call themselve "The Christian Right"...
These days, have always had nothing but contempt and worse for every one of those groups you have listed. The extreme right has always take Christianity as their own and put forward their take on it as the "purest" form of faith. Christian Identity is but one manefestation of this.

Where the biggest mistake was made was when the repukes started courting these people, knowing that by playing to them, they would have a locked-in group of activists that would follow them into The Gaping Maw of Hell, as long as they played to their deepest bigotries.

These are the people that, in the past, belonged to right-wing militias and worse. Some still do. In the past, our MSM did not shrink from pointing out just how scabrous the people are. Now, they make them sound mainstream. Perhaps this is the biggest failure of the MSM, among the many.

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:34 PM
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4. to further that thought
here is an expose by Wayne Madsen.
http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

Where Those Who Now Run the U.S. Government Came From and Where They Are Taking Us

By Wayne Madsen

Part I

After several months of in-depth research and, at first, seemingly unrelated conversations with former high-level intelligence officials, lawyers, politicians, religious figures, other investigative journalists, and researchers, I can now report on a criminal conspiracy so vast and monstrous it defies imagination. Using “Christian” groups as tax-exempt and cleverly camouflaged covers, wealthy right-wing businessmen and “clergy” have now assumed firm control over the biggest prize of all – the government of the United States of America. First, some housekeeping is in order. My use of the term “Christian” is merely to clearly identify the criminal conspirators who have chosen to misuse their self-avowed devotion to Jesus Christ to advance a very un-Christian agenda. The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have termed the major conspirators and it is not intended to debase Christians or infer that they are criminals . I will also use the term Nazi – not for shock value – but to properly tag the political affiliations of the early founders of the so-called “Christian” power cult called the Fellowship. The most important element of this story is that a destructive religious movement has now achieved almost total control over the machinery of government of the United States – its executive, its legislature, several state governments, and soon, the federal judiciary, including the U.S. Supreme Court.


The United States has experienced religious and cult hucksters throughout its history, from Cotton Mather and his Salem witch burners to Billy Sunday, Father Charles Coughlin, Charles Manson, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, and others. But none have ever achieved the kind of power now possessed by a powerful and secretive group of conservative politicians and wealthy businessmen in the United States and abroad who are known among their adherents and friends as The Fellowship or The Family. The Fellowship and its predecessor organizations have used Jesus in the same way that McDonald’s uses golden arches and Coca Cola uses its stylized script lettering. Jesus is a logo and a slogan for the Fellowship. Jesus is used to justify the Fellowship’s access to the highest levels of government and business in the same way Santa Claus entices children into department stores and malls during the Christmas shopping season.


When the Founders of our nation constitutionally separated Church and State, the idea of the Fellowship taking over the government would have been their worst nightmare. The Fellowship has been around under various names since 1935. Its stealth existence has been perpetuated by its organization into small cells, a pyramid organization of “correspondents,” “associates,” “friends,” “members,” and “core members,” tax-exempt status for its foundations, and its protection by the highest echelons of the our own government and those abroad.

The Roots of the Fellowship

The roots of the Fellowship go back to the 1930s and a Norwegian immigrant and Methodist minister named Abraham Vereide. According to Fellowship archives maintained at the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College in Illinois, Vereide, who immigrated from Norway in 1905, began an outreach ministry in Seattle in April 1935. But his religious outreach involved nothing more than pushing for an anti-Communist, anti-union, anti-Socialist, and pro-Nazi German political agenda. A loose organization and secrecy were paramount for Vereide. Fellowship archives state that Vereide wanted his movement to “carry out its objective through personal, trusting, informal, unpublicized contact between people.” Vereide’s establishment of his Prayer Breakfast Movement for anti-Socialist and anti-International Workers of the World (IWW or “Wobblies”) Seattle businessmen in 1935 coincided with the establishment of another pro-Nazi German organization in the United States, the German-American Bund. Vereide saw his prayer movement replacing labor unions.


and oh so much more...

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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:03 PM
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5. Keep in mind
Governments and religion have a long standing feud on how best to control populations. Both are driven by profit not morals.

Every once is a while they meet halfway to to accomplish a few things. It's no surpirise that one of the christians rights heads hold a few diamond mines in south africa. The capitalist shouts freedom just as the Pope promises salvation. Both entail a certain amount of servitude from the masses.
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Tyranikal Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:28 PM
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2. speaking of hate -Bush Hates Me
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:30 PM
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3. don't feel lonely Tyranikal
he hates us all. BTW welcome to DU :hi:
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