DU this CNN poll: Should electronic voting be abandoned?

86% say yes!

DU this poll, kick and recommend, please!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Don't mean to be snarky...

Thrilled to see the issue front and center.

K and R

84% says YES!

Yes 84%
8678 votes

No 16%
1645 votes

6 minutes appart (see #8)

And welcome to DU! :hi:

(I just pressed F5 to refresh the display):

Yes 84
8712 votes

No 16%
1654 votes

n/t

it's still good enough :)

Yes 84%
8678 votes

No 16
1645 votes



(Plus: it ain't the only problem.)

Thank you!

He made his word good. And we have W, the twice unelected president.

Yes 84% 8838 votes
No 16% 1671 votes
Total: 10509 votes

having such a good time and all.

You may have noticed that getting the vote totals to move was a little tough. They don't do it on every poll, although they are supposed to-somebody's a little sloppy at times- but the reason the numbers don't change is that this poll is dead. It's been turned off, as it's supposed to be.
This Lou Dobbs poll is the one he ran for today's (now yesterday's) show.

He announces the poll results at the end of the show and then the poll is disabled-won't take any more votes- although they do leave it up 'till tomorrow so people can see it.

Don't mean to be making fun of anyone--elections are serious business-- (well, maybe a little) but this is, unfortunately, yesterday's business.

Machines will help us in the long run, no over votes and only intentional under votes. I'm much more afraid of the guaranteed vote spoilage via punch cards than I am of Diebold. Obviously I want mandatory paper trails, like here in Nevada starting this year.

In this particular poll, you can't vote in any direction.

I totally agree, elections have to be totally transparent, and it's up to the election operators to prove, at all times, that there is zero fraud.

Contrary to what some people think, normal rules of evidence don't apply as an election is not a trial.
No one is entitled to the benefit of any doubt. If there is any doubt, the election in invalid on its face.

A mass of doubt of any significance automatically disqualifies the election--gotta start over, or, as you so succinctly refer to, there has to be a manually written backup document that can be physically counted.

The standard is not how much fraud can an election stand and still be valid. It's not even "reasonable doubt," whatever that might be.
The only standard for free and fair elections is immediate provability. If there should be a reasonable suspicion and the results cannot be verified easily, the whole thing must be scrapped and a new one instituted that has those qualities.

but AT LEAST they're asking the question! I have to consider that progress.

Do you believe the United States should abandon electronic voting?

Yes ______ 84% ______ 9106 votes

No _______ 16% ______ 1734 votes

Total: 10840 votes

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

Holding at 84% yes

10981 votes

Wonder why CNN is floating it?


Do you believe the United States should abandon electronic voting?

Yes 84% 9312 votes

No 16% 1786 votes
Total: 11098 votes

:kick:

84% 9523 votes Yes


16% 1822 votes No
Total: 11345 votes

anyone who voted 'no' is sick in the head.

Well I am SOOO against electronic voting, that I don't even participate in CNN.com polls!

Yes 83% 10705 votes
No 17% 2147 votes
Total: 12852 votes

Diebold&Co couldn't, and still cannot, rig *THAT* vote!
(Even if they'd $URE LUV TO...)

:kick:

83% Yes
17% No

Over 11,000 Yes votes

Dobbs: President and Senate allied with 'corporate supremacists'



"If the House fails in its duty to represent the will of American citizens, our nation will be forever changed.

"The will of the people," Thomas Jefferson said, "is the only legitimate foundation of any government." But if President Bush and the Senate prevail, it will be a clear victory for corporate supremacists, advocacy groups and dominant special interests and a historical defeat for our middle-class working men and women and their families."



We need to post a link to this in every nook and cranny on the internet!


Nice job Lou..

Welcome to DU! :hi:

It's nice to be on board.

It's not often that we get a MSM willing to use this kind of terminology 'corporate supremacists'

I can't "Recommend Topic for Greatest Page" yet. It would be good if we can keep this one alive.

only 300 million to go!

83% yes

I think Dobbs has been Cryptic all week... CYA!

6/6/2006 - Dobbs: "The security of our elections and the integrity of our democracy is in jeopardy."

remind me to stop clicking on CNN....