San Diego Bouncers!!!

I know a number of young men who are bouncers at San Diego bars and they all have related supposedly factual stories of American servicemen crawling out of bars shit-faced in sorrow at having to report to IRAN!!!!!They say we're already there, and at war with them!NOW! Can we get some investigation on this going?

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Out of curiosity, do you have any source other than a few bouncers? Not to impugn their credibility, but I think that Al Jazeera would carry news of an ongoing war with Iran, even if no western media had anything to say about it.

we're already there.

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Well, that's shitty news, if you ask me.

But are we simply there, or are we already actively at war? It's a fine distinction, to be sure, but essential.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that we have covert forces already on the ground.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

He gives the impression he thinks there are troops already over there and has been demanding the GOP fess up and report on it.

Our democracy can't work effectively if half of Congress doesn't know what's going on.

From his web site:

http://www.kucinich.us/archive/home/display.php?src=k_20060505_ohfu_yrggref.cuc

Kucinich Asks Tough Questions of Bush, Rumsfeld

Wants Answers About What the U.S. Is Doing in Iraq and Iran

May 6, 2006

Congressman Kucinich has been asking tough questions of the President and the Secretary of Defense.

He wrote letters in April to both Secretary Rumsfeld and President Bush. The text of the letters appears in the May 4 issue of the Congression Record Extensions of Remarks.

Kucinich's April 5 letter to Rumsfeld began, "I am writing to request a copy of all records pertaining to Pentagon plans to use U.S. Special Forces to advise, support and train Iraqi assassination and kidnapping teams."

He referred to the January 5, 2005 Newsweek report of Pentagon plans to train elite Iraqi troops to put down growing violence there, dubbed "the Salvador option." He then cited 15 news reports since this time last year, suggesting that "the U.S. has trained and supported highly organized Iraqi commando brigades, and ... some of those brigades have operated as death squads, abducting and assassinating thousands of Iraqis."

Finally, Kucinich asked, "Mr. Secretary, in light of this evidence of U.S. support for and the existence of death squads in Iraq, what is the basis for your January 11, 2005 statement, that the idea of a Salvador option in Iraq is 'nonsense'?"

Kucinich's letters to the President concerned Iran. In his April 14 letter, he asked about reports that troops are already operating in Iran. If these reports are true, he suggested, "it appears that you have already made the decision to commit U.S. military forces to a unilateral conflict with Iran, even before direct or indirect negotiations with the government of Iran had been attempted, without UN support and without authorization from the U.S. Congress."

In conclusion, Kucinich wrote, "Any military deployment to Iran would constitute an urgent matter of national significance. I urge you to report immediately to Congress on all activities involving American forces in Iran."

Four days later, Congressman Kucinich again wrote to the President, this time asking about reports that "the U.S. is fomenting opposition and supporting military operations in Iran among insurgent groups and Iranian ethnic minority groups, some of whom are operating from Iraq." Once again he asked the President to report to Congress on U.S. support for anti-Iranian insurgent groups operating in Iran.

"It is a great breach of public trust to set this country on another path of war while keeping the Congress and the American people in the dark. I am demanding that you respond."