they are trying to stir us up against a RIFLE PLANT?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2344473

President Hugo Chavez's plans to build the first Kalashnikov factory in South America are stirring fears Venezuela could start arming his leftist allies in the hemisphere with Russian assault rifles.

Chavez denies such ambitions, saying his government bought 100,000 Russian-made AK-103 assault rifles and a license from Moscow to make Kalashnikovs and ammunition to bolster its defenses against ``the most powerful empire in history'' - the United States.

Some political opponents and critics suspect Chavez, a former paratrooper, has other intentions, such as providing allies like Bolivia and Cuba with arms while forging an anti-Washington military alliance.

RIFLES!?!?!?!?!?!? RIFLES ARE THE NEW WMD?!?!?! the fuck these guys are smoking

As corrupt republicon cronies get their Satanic chisto-fascist state more deeply entrenched, they will begin to confiscate arms from regular citizens, regular human beings, and anyone the republicon so-called "elite" designates as a "non-believer"*


* non-believer in their Satanic christo-fascist propaganda to benefit the fat-cat ELITE

THE WORLD THE USA. They are railing against the populist movement sweeping S. America. How dare they actually spend money providing houses and clean watter to the people?

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and if there is anything our own military has now come to fear, thanks to the Iraqi experience, is a well-armed citizenship!

a profound distrust of Chavez. The article says as much, but that's easy enough to overlook.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-103

These aren't just rifles. They're assault rifles. And not the watered-down 'assault rifle' verbiage used in Congress and the MSM, which are semi-automatic look-alikes.

A fine insurgency weapon, which is why Chavez wants them; AKs are better than M16s in low-maintenance/low-training settings. So did the weapons used by the Sandistas were AKs, Cuban hand-me-downs, though of a different number and slightly different design. And probably the Sendero luminoso used AKs. And probably FARC does to this day. And the Columbian paramilitaries, I'd venture on a guess.

Trust Chavez implicitly and this isn't a problem. Don't trust him, it's a problem; but it doesn't mean that the reasoning can't be understood.

And WMD is the wrong phrase; MWD would be better. Not weapons of mass destruction, but mass-produced weapons of destruction.

I have no problem with that factory which will be used to help defend that country.

set up a government, and have what could plausibly be called an insurgency on our hands. It seems to be an element of Chavez' political beliefs that such a threat is real. Others assume that his claimed beliefs are so implausible as to be a subterfuge.

I think of 'insurgency' as an unmarked term, simply implying something like an established government versus forces seeking to replace or at least remove that government. Others require finer distinctions.

I'm sure that also played into the decision as well. There are better weapons to be had, but they can get expensive to be sure.

many fucking rifles as they want. I can't believe this even makes the news....

of weapons and the military being used to defend the homeland.

If we had a crazy neighbor with an enormous crusading military bent on suppressing dissent worldwide, I would hope the government would buy us some rifles to keep in our houses.

But the US government has entirely forgotten what "Defense" means; they can only conceive the military as an expansionist tool.