I Wonder How These People Would Have Voted in Yesterday's Primaries?

The children of Iraq, I wonder how they would have expressed their opinion...if they had a voice in the matter?

of IWR.

But since you did mention it, it seems that you are suggesting that the Iraqi War Resolution had no connection to the mayhem against the children of Iraq. Or am I mistaken?

I know you don't agree but I am suggesting that even if the vote on IWR was 100 NO there would have been a war in Iraq anyway.

Imagine. Wouldn't it have been something else, something wonderful if...if...if...if just a handful more in Congress might have stood with the courageous Representative Dennis Kucincih, and voted "Nay" to the Iraqi War Resolution? I know you, your great mind and your compelling compassion well enough, NSMA to know that you'd have been there voting with Dennis on that day. I know it.

You'd have done it for the children to prevent the horror that our nation inflicted on their pitiful, innocent and precious lives.

You'd have voted "Nay". I know it...because I know you.

so that you can have coltan for your computer. Why single out Iraqi lives? Are they MORE valuable than the lives cost everyday so we can live our lifestyles?

Again, some people have politicized this war beyond those who voted for IWR if that was their intention. There is only ONE clean anti-war candidate in the race and that is Kucinich. Everyone else is blood sucking as much as the pro war votes for power.

If we're gonna be pure then let's put all the hypocrisy out on the table. OK?

When the U.S. began dropping bombs on Afghanistan, a war that almost everyone here at the DU even supported, NSMA, I took a lot of shit here for posting the very same way as this.

I spoke out here that we were killing children and innocent, poor people in our assault there.

I went crazy here at the DU during the IWR that you brought up. Go back and read my postings at that time. I was beside myself.

Read the post I made here the first night of the Iraqi Invasion. It was all about the children. The children. This is the same David Zephyr tonight posting about the same things I posted about then.

Maybe you remember my "Fag Bomb" post. The only wars that I can rationalize at all waged by the United States would be the Civil War and World War II, and we should have entered WWII earlier against Germany and we should have never, ever dropped atomic bombs on Japan.

And I agree with you about Kucinich. I've said so in this thread.

on cell phones and use computers. Are they less valuable than Iraqi's or just less senational and political? See, war can be politicezed from more than one angle.

:shrug:

Did Bush have a GOP primary opponent yesterday?

& two of our Senator's knew this & gave him the power anyway. Shame on them, shame on them, shame on them.

I sort of thought there was a direct relationship between the Congressional vote, the War and the results of the war, too.

I humbly submit to you, that I think you and I are in a tiny minority thinking this, though. Foolish us, huh?

belongs to Bush.

Why else bring up the primary?

That would include Kerry & Edwards! No matter how you try to spin it the facts are there.

I won't hold it against you, though.

No spinning that, they gave Bush what he wanted.

It's a total stretch of the imagination to think that Chimp would have been dishonest. What with his past history and all. Damn him for fooling us!

Kerry was the first to speak out when Bush broke his word.

"In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days - to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out "tough, immediate" inspections requirements and to "act with our allies at our side" if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be the first to speak out." John Kerry October 9th,2002


"It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism. If so, the only exit strategy is victory, this is our common mission and the world’s cause. We're in this together. We want to complete the mission while safeguarding our troops, avoiding innocent civilian casualties, disarming Saddam Hussein and engaging the community of nations to rebuild Iraq." John Kerry March 20th, 2003


John Kerry: The Professional Politician

The guy from the Billy Jack movies and some others.

The next adult Islamic generation can be counted on to "vote"... and we shall all be made to pay for what Bush and those who voted for this war have done to our world.



US apologises for killing Iraqi child; FBI tracks terror groups

BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US army apologised for killing an Iraqi child, as the death toll from double suicide bombings, the deadliest post-war attacks in Iraq (news - web sites), climbed to over 100.

Colonel William Mayville acknowledged that his forces were responsible Tuesday for mortar fire that killed an Iraqi boy during a major Muslim holiday as his family picnicked in the northern oil region of Kirkuk.

Mayville told a meeting with local government officials Wednesday that he had ordered an investigation into the shelling that also wounded the boy's mother and two brothers.

He said his troops had opened fire because they suspected insurgents were in the area, but that those responsible for the deadly error would be held accountable.

Mayville added that he ordered the payment of 2,500 dollars in compensation for the family of the nine-year-old boy, Basssam Sami Awwad, and 1,500 dollars for each of the three injured.

(more)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=afp/iraq_us

I took these photos from one of your posts which moved me profoundly.

Peace.

Thankyou, friend :hug:

would've voted for anybody but Lieberman, who was the only Democratic candidate who supported the war.

Simplistic

Easy enough for you to say, eh?

Sometimes you just have to say yes to legislation that reduces the barrier between war and peace to the integrity of a known liar and election thief. Sometimes that is the only way to ensure that peace prevails.

I wouldn't want their pain exploited to make a point.

That's why it's a cheap shot, it presumes that those children want you as their advocates, and that they condone your use of their pictures for YOUR gain.

This is exactly what war is all about.

Right-o. I don't think so, friend. I'm a social activist with a conscience, and I choose not to allow the "niceties" of "political inconvenience" to pebble my path in this life. A life which both you and I continue to "enjoy", by the way, while the lives those you would rather "not see" are snuffed out.

They wouldn't have been allowed to vote in a dictatorship. Plus they're children, so they couldn't even vote if they were Americans.

Not to mention using their photos to suggest they would have voted for a particular Democratic candidate is a pretty crappy thing to do.

There is no such inference nor any implication for or endorsement of a candidate in David's post.

What there is are injured babies. Cold, dead babies. An honest, harsh look at what OUR bombs and OUR bullets and OUR elected representatives have brought the innocents in Iraq to and us DOWN too... and we wonder why they hate us.

WHY DO THEY HATE US?!?!?!?!

THAT'S the point. America should see these images every day.

Reality bites Doc, and it bites hard.

I'm touched by your genuine concern about those children.

;)

Think about it.

All the horse race election stuff, had driven it almost out of my mind. And now I'm getting all pissed off again.

:(

Puts it all in perspective, doesn't it. Thank you Jim4Wes, you wear a good heart inside of you.

Peace.

Work for Peace.

None too pleased with Bush in the WH.

That just broke my heart. :cry: Those poor, poor babies. G-D I hate this administration. I hate what they have done. I hate that we have presidential candidates who VOTED for the war that did that to those babies. :( *sigh*

And they didn't get to vote or decide. What shame.

and explained the IWR vote away, just like his supporters do.

Bleeding Iraqi Children for The Staus Quo!

Another John Kerry Special Interest Group...

Again and I posed the question above. 2 million Africans have died since 1990 due to coltan wars caused by our tech industry since computers and cell phones cannot function without that mineral. Are these deaths less valuable politically than Iraqi deaths?

Did you even know that fact until I told you?

John Kerry voting for the IWR, giving this maniacal administration free reign to attack Iraq...which caused the deaths and injuries of those babies in the pictures?

Really, what is your point? Have your wonderings produced any insight into how these amputated children would have voted in the mini-Super Tuesday?

Gee, who wouldda thunk?