Soldiers faking PTSD according to brilliant conservatives

That bastion of ethics and morality, the American Enterprise Institute thinks our Soldiers in Iraq are faking their PTSD, some to get more benefits, others because doctors tell them to.

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No doubt this will be added to the right wing talking points:

- more people die in car wrecks then in combat
- Those dying in Iraq are volunteers
- Soldiers are faking Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

So there, its okay that bush lied us into war because he wanted to be a war president. Nowhere in the report was any effort to find out what all the fuss is about by sending some AEI folks into combat. I wonder why!!

Can't you just feel the love.

I'd really like to see the folks in the 101st Fighting Keyboarders join up, if it weren't for the additional thousands who would undoubtedly be at greater risk from having all these shitbirds suddenly show up.

"Support the troops" my sweet Aunt Fanny.

motherfucking confirmable trauma after their "tour."

Ramesh Ponnuru is certainly of age. They're all "all hat & no cattle".

Let's give them what they want. A "leader's" position is up front. Let's see how long they last before someone shoots them. I'd say 50-50 as to which side does it. That will end the BS about faking PTSD.

......are faking anything at all then why don't the neocons get off their effing a.... and prove how a REAL SOLDIER does things?????

Is there a neocon around that can answer that simple question?? We all know the answer we'd get, "I've chosen to serve in other ways", to which I say "Chickens-hit"(purposely misspelled for mods:rofl:)

Oh and while they are at it, take those skinhead wannabes and let the Iraqis deal with them. Can't do that though, they might get a taste of their own medicine.

Oh, I loathe neocons/fundies with everything in me. How do we get rid of these creatures LEGALLY when our voting machines aren't exactly reliable???

(No doubt a well worn talking point because I've heard it at least three times) to the question "where did you serve in the military?" I HAVEN'T SERVED (YET.)

reply when they mention not serving yet I love to say, "I know where the recruiter's office is, I'll take you there so you don't loose your way?"

That's where you separate the men from the boys and the girls from the women.

who's first day in Bagdad he saw a body blown in half. That night closing his eyes, he began to shake.

Some people just don't have any fucking idea...

I can stomach my toe bleeding if I pull a hangnail or other bothersome piece out of my toe despite the sometimes extreme pain when pulling.

I can probably stomach most injuries to myself or others that involve bleeding.

I can stomach most violence including blood and guts on tv especially if it is stupid or idiotic.


I would have difficulty if someone's bone from a broken arm or leg was sticking out.

I would have difficulty if someone's entrails were exposed and sticking out.

I would have difficulty watching a movie about a real life situation involving surgery knowing that it could be me. (I did)

I would have some difficulty being around dead people in a morgue. Even more in a battle zone.

Seeing someone blown in half first hand would be extremely discomforting especially with the knowledge that it could had been me or it still might be if I wasn't already in shock.

And when they stop faking being killed, our troops that are faking having PTSD can come home and fake like they have solid marriages and fake being able to hold down steady, high-paying jobs.



Do I need to use the sarcasm smilie?

I don't think so.

We need to lobby to suit up some of those worthless assholes at AEI & the Heritage Foundation and send them to Iraq for some first hand study. I mean, they are all the time passing themselves off as experts on anything and everything as it it is, let them be "certified" experts on this too. They can study things like how much does the violent loss of a limb through explosive amputation hurt & does the sudden loss (real sudden) of a friend affect the psyche.

I look forward to seeing one of them on Washington Journal upon their return. Somehow I doubt they will be as smug!

limbaugh is hawking t-shirts with Club Gitmo printed on them. And they are being purchased by chickenhawks with no concept of pain or suffering or fear and have zero reasons to be patriotic. To be a patriot you have to actually do something for your country.

No doubt if the worthless humps from the heritage foundation spent any amount of time in combat, PTSD support would be getting max funding as soon as they got back.

in-country. He was sent back to the States, but the Pentagon didn't want North Vietnam to hear about our soldiers having breakdowns, so they classified my friend as having "battle fatigue" and promptly treated him as having such a condition, which meant wrong approach, wrong drugs, and potential to send him back as soon as he was "rested up". On his records to this day, it says battle fatigue. He had to independently figure out he had a breakdown and finally get his treatment, but we know he'll never be healed.

their bodies or missing limbs to qualify as an injury, unless they are Democrats, then even these injuries are suspect.

a "self inflicted wound to get out of combat"?:sarcasm:

AEI has been proved to be a ridiculous Republican propaganda enterprise. The war they so confidently promoted is a disaster, and was unnecessary.

They are not a think tank. They are a collection of Republican politicians who dream up rationalizations for their ruinous policies.

who'd need PTSD treatment after making a hard poopie.

:hurts:

Lisby

I am just in a foul mood today.

There threshold for pain is extremely low but for those serving in combat they believe its non-existent.

Hard Poopy describes them very well and their think tanks are actually septic tanks. Thanks for your two cents.

They see death, and sometimes the dead are children. They see bodies blown apart, they see buildings destroyed, and they see their own buddies die, or have their limbs blown off. They hear the anguished cries, sometimes from the wounded, sometimes from relatives as they cradle their loved ones whose lives have just been taken.

They can't tell who is a friend, or who is not, and they feel that they can't trust anybody except their own friends. While they are worrying about how to stay alive, they are also worrying about their loved ones at home. Will they live to see a newborn child, will they be able to make it back to spend a few precious moments with a dying parent? They worry about the financial burden of their spouses.

They are exposed to horror, bloodshed, and hatred every day, and every night. They are exposed to things I can not even imagine, since I've never been in the service, nor have I lived in a war zone. They have to be hyper vigilant, they depend on it for their own survival. Once they have lived through months and months of this, and are on maybe their third deployment, how can they turn off this hyper alert state like you turn off a water tap?

They are humans, and the frame of mind they maintain in battle as a means of self preservation is not easily shed when they get back home. To add to the scenes of horror they have locked in their memories, they are very often viewed as "faking it" by members of the right wing nuts, who would doubtless pee in their pants if they endured a tiny fraction of what the soldiers go through.

I have no doubt at all that the traumatic stress is real, because their lives have been lived in a state of trauma while they serve. The only thing I question is how any of them avoid being burdened with such stress, not how many are faking it. They don't have to fake it. It must be very hard for them to even admit to the stress, because they are proud of their service, and don't want to be viewed as less than heroic. It's wrong, and cruel, to treat them like robots who can serve in a savage war, yet expect them to "snap out of it" when they come back.

How do we get the head of the American Enterprise Institute declared "Worst Person In the World"? That person really deserves it.

It's an old pussy chickenhawk lie...not having a clue what war is about, these excuses for human beings start actually attacking the integrity of the military leadership and valor.

Why other Repugs embrace these people is utterly beyond my comprehension...