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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:18 AM
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DFA Marin asks Boxer to let CT primary process work itself out.
This is a great letter they sent to her. They ask her not to support Lieberman in primary.

Marin's letter to Boxer


Proving once again that Ned Lamont's Senate Campaign is not just about Connecticut, DFA-Marin sent us a copy of the letter they just wrote to Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA).

July 8, 2006

Dear Senator Boxer:

As you know, DFA-Marin is one of your strongest supporters, and we are proud of the courage you show each and every time you stand up and speak out for the true values and ideals we hold as Democrats. Because we admire you and your commitment to progressive issues, we are especially disappointed to learn that you intend to go to Connecticut to campaign for Joe Lieberman in his increasingly difficult re-election bid against Ned Lamont.

Joe Lieberman has been in trouble with his own constituency, and Democrats in general for a very long time, even before the Iraq war, although he wants to blame his current predicament completely on that one issue. The fact is, the Democrats have not been able to count on Lieberman's vote on any issue of real importance to us for over 6 years. His rabid support for our invasion of Iraq, his willingness to continue to defend the lies, misinformation and deliberately manufactured evidence that the Bush administration produced to justify that invasion, his refusal to participate in a filibuster that would have kept Bush from packing the Supreme Court with a right-wing idealogue, his consistent support of Bush's many questionable nominees, his lack of criticism of President Bush and Vice President Cheney's abuses of power and what the court has recently held as their illegal behavior, plus dozens of other disturbing examples, prove that Joe Lieberman has been much more valuable to the Republicans as a Democrat than he has been to us.

Certainly that is the growing opinion of the voters in Connecticut. It's not hard to understand why they seem to be switching their allegience to Ned Lamont, a man who will stand up for the Democratic principles that Joe Lieberman has turned his back on. If there is any doubt, the fact that Lieberman has filed to run as an Independent if he loses the primary should make it abundantly clear that his loyalties are to himself and not his party or his constituents. It is clear that if Ned Lamont prevails in the primary and Lieberman makes good on his threat to run as an Independent, the election will surely be thrown to the Republican, costing a crucial Democratic seat.

At a time when thousands of us are out here on the grassroots front working hard to elect Democrats so that you will have the majority you need in Congress to take the country back, it would be a travesty for Congressional Democrats to go out and campaign for a man who will be running against the Democratic nominee if he loses his primary, even if he is a close personal friend. We beg you to reconsider your decision to campaign for Joe Lieberman, and let the people of Connecticut decide for themselves who they want their next Senator to be.

With respect and appreciation,
DFA Marin


http://www.dfamarin.org/
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 09:44 AM
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1. Kicking for the DFA
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:02 AM
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2. We in CT thank our brothers and sisters in DFA CA
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:09 AM
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3. Damn - I experienced a news void yesterday = Boxer is helping
Leiberman?

Everytime I build up these heroes and heroines, I'm crushed.

I had Boxer near the top on my list of WH candidates.

Darn.
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:21 AM
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4. Okay
Will he be sending a similar letter to Maxine Waters asking her not to campaign for Ned Lamont?

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:22 AM
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5. DFA Marin is a group in CA...Democracy for America
Actually they should send that as well.

Everyone should stay out of primaries.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:33 AM
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7. Hasn't the DFA endorsed Lamont?
I could be mistaken on this but I thought I read that a few weeks ago.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:10 AM
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8. Yes. Jim Dean is a CT citizen, DFA is outside the party, a PAC.
Not the same thing as congress people and party leaders getting involved. Other grassroots groups are involved, and bloggers as well. Not the same as the party leaders.

Our support is small potatoes compared to the huge PACs held by the presidential candidates who compete to give money.

Boxer gives money and support to whomever Rahm and Schumer ask. She has donated to 3 candidates in Florida with Democratic opponents in the primary because Rahm asked. She has gone against what the grassroots groups wanted every time. One of them was a Republican when Rahm and our state chairman recruited him. Another was picked again with no political experience, she is almost 70, just very wealthy. She lost to her primary opponent last time....the one Rahm and Boxer snubbed. They are making bad decisions in picking candidates here.

She is loyal to the the leaders of the DSCC and DCCC who pick the candidates for us in the primary, and they have said publicly recently they will continue to do so.

So Jim is a long time friend of Lamont, a private citizen, not a Democratic party leader. Many of the DFA are not Democrats, so it is a whole other situation.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:25 AM
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6. Good for them!
Barbara needs to let Joe sink or swim on his own.

TC
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:26 PM
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9. No, no, DFA made a mistake saying "let the people of Connecticut decide for
themselves." Diebold aside, it's obvious they have that right. But it's foolish to say that we don't all have a vital interest in the composition of the US Senate. This is NOT a matter of who has a right to say something about a candidate or issues in an election. All Americans have that right in ALL jurisdictions and elections. This is a matter of "who's side are you on, Senator Boxer?"--on the side of the war profiteers and the Bush fascists, or on the side of the American people?

If she chooses to side with Lieberman, then what we have is one more betrayal by the Democratic Party establishment--which combines (in my mind, anyway) with their horrendous betrayal of us by their SILENCE about Bushite corporations gaining control of the tabulation of our votes with TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls. I noticed that, in supporting the Black Caucus challenge of the Ohio Electors in January '05, Boxer entirely focused on the outrages against poor, black and other Democratic voters in Ohio, and FAILED to challenge the underlying non-transparency of the entire voting system, put into place in the 2002 to 2004 period, by the worst piece of legislation in American history, the so-called "Help America Vote Act" (HAVA), engineered by the biggest crooks in the Anthrax Congress, Tom Delay and Bob Ney (abetted by Bilderberg 'Democrat' Christopher Dodd-D-CT).

I shined it on. I thought, well, okay, she's doing SOMETHING--she's defending black voters, when no one else in the Senate would. But it bothered me. What's the matter with these people (I thought)? Did they inhale too much around the mail room, or what?

BUSHITE. CORPORATIONS. COUNTING. ALL. OUR. VOTES. WITH. TRADE. SECRET. PROGRAMMING. CODE.

I think we're looking at various combinations of fear (intimidation, bullying, blackmail), cronyism, corporatism, cowardice, corruption and collusion--with occasional (but too often carefully calibrated) incidents of courage, and loyalty to the American people and the Constitution. We're looking at HUMAN BEINGS, in our Dem Party leadership--and human beings are tribe animals, who are greatly influenced by those around them. If they hang out with fascists and warmongers, and the rich--which is difficult to avoid in Washington DC--their minds become bent in those directions. And so maybe it doesn't trouble them at all, that our elections are now run by private, Bush-supporting corporations.

When I heard that Boxer was supporting Lieberman, this is the first thing I thought of: She never said anything about Diebold and ES&S in her speech on the 2004 election.

Connecticut's OTHER Senator--Christopher Dodd--was a main architect of HAVA.

Is it possible that this fascist coup that took place in 2004--as the result of HAVA--was a conspiracy of BOTH the Democratic Party leadership AND the Bushites--and that, now that the fascists are in control of all the levers of our government, including our elections, Boxer has no choice but to do their bidding**? She can safely vote liberal/leftist in the Diebold Congress, because HER votes will never be "counted." We don't have, and will never again achieve, a majority in Congress that votes for the interests of the majority of Americans. So, she can put up a liberal/leftist front in her votes (not entirely feigned), but, when it comes down to it, she has to side with the bad guys in the case of something like the Lamont challenge of Lieberman. (It's conceivable, too--and maybe more likely--that she's traded something. We may not like such DC dickering, but it's a reality.)

It's interesting to consider why Lieberman needs such support--if these corporate-controlled election theft machines are putting a "thumb on the scales" for fascists and warmongers (which I am convinced of). Part of it is likely that the rebellion against this war, and the Bush junta, is so big. The machines can only do so much. They can't be too obvious about it (not yet anyway*). And it may be that fascist control of things like pre-election polls is not total. So, the fascist candidate first of all must have a base of support (votes, donations) to get into a position to be Diebolded into office. Then they have to overcome the natural inclination of most Americans to vote for the interests of the poor and middle class--for good government, fairness, peace and justice. This new election theft system can provide the edge against the majority. But they can't just manufacture an entire election.* Thus, Lieberman needs all the support he can get. He's "calling in all chips" (and apparently has some with Boxer).

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*But consider the four recent election reform initiatives in Ohio, predicted to win by 60/40 votes, flipped over, on election day, into 60/40 LOSSES!--the biggest flipover we've seen yet; the election theft machines and their masters are now dictating election policy! This sure looks like an experiment in huge-scale election theft, carried out in a "safe" venue--Ohio--where the Bush junta has total control. See this Bob Koehler article, Title: "Poll Shock" (11/24/05)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col321.htm

**The Diebold central tabulators gave Boxer a 20% margin of victory in her '04 Senate race in Calif. Kerry won Calif by a 10% margin. This might be attributable to incumbency, except that all of the margin of difference between Boxer and Kerry occurs in the Republican counties. Go figure. People voting in large numbers for Bush...and Boxer? What it looks like to me is that Diebold left Boxer alone--didn't fiddle her vote--but did shave/switch/'disappear' votes away from Kerry--in the manufacture of Bush's national popular majority. I think we must realize that all of our political representative are now beholden to Diebold and ES&S and their "trade secret" programming code, and to the state/local election officials whom Diebold/ES&S et al have corrupted with lavish lobbying and with this new culture of secret vote counting. Even someone like Boxer.

Note: Here is a fact that will upset your apple cart. (It sure took me by surprise.) Only two US senators voted against HAVA. Hillary Clinton and Charles Schumer. Every one of the other Dems voted for this piece of crap, fascist legislation. (63 House members voted against it, including--another surprise--C. Sensenbrenner.) Does Hillary actually believe in democracy? She could've fooled me! She hasn't said a damn thing about it since, that I know of--none of the them have! -except John Conyers and a few others, who treat it as a sort of footnote to the egregious violations of the Voting Rights Act in Ohio. Even Howard Dean MUMBLES about private, secret, Bushite control of the voting system. In NORMAL political times, they would be shouting about it from the rooftops. It's so-o-o bad! I think they're all scared (the ones who aren't outright collusive with the Bushites, like Lieberman and Dodd).


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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:52 PM
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10. Great letter! Speak out loud and proud, California!
As constituents, your voices are much more powerful than the voices from the rest of us.

Thanks for standing up on this issue!
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