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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:14 AM
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Turn to a man of honor
From a piece by Bernie Quigley.


WES CLARK’S WORLD AND BUSH’S
Wednesday, February 01, 2006

I had a small epiphany a few years back when Ryutaro Hashimoto, Prime Minister of Japan, was forced out of office in a political scandal and he used these words on television. “I take complete responsibility. I resign.”

Wow. I gathered my children in front of the TV. We have heard that phrase many times before and since, but only the first part of it: “I take full responsibility.”

When we hear it now it means nothing. The last two Presidents have used it and many before. Usually today it means that none of the accomplices in the dastardly deed are going to get fired or go to jail. Even cowardly acts like those of the current President’s Men who publicly revealed the name and cover of a covert American agent and endangered the lives of others – a treasonous act for which they would have been taken out and shot a shot in the Korean War - have virtually no consequences.

Listen to this I told my kids. The Japanese Prime Minister takes full responsibility for his failure. He resigns.

Of course, a hundred years earlier, Hashimoto would have been given the option to throw himself on his sword, to save himself form the disgrace of living in the society he had betrayed. But the code of honor was stronger then and even Japan has pretty much relinquished the Way of the Sword.

Today corruption is an everyday part of life. Sin happens. But in an honorable society a leader takes responsibility for his actions. He acknowledges his failure to himself, to his family, to deity and country. He relinquishes the reins of power.

We are no longer a society which honor’s honor. Recently, I had a conversation with a very decent, intelligent and thoughtful young man who said he didn’t have any idea what I meant by honor. We live in a nation of laws, he pointed out. Honor has nothing to do with it. I think he explains it precisely. It is an American dilemma. Can a country live by laws alone? Our country does, but in each segment of our history laws have ultimately failed us and we have had to call upon men of honor at the hour of desperation: Washington, Lincoln, Eisenhower, George Marshall. Very often they were military men.

The high Victorians lived by a code of honor, well expressed in its prelude by Lord Nelson, who said, “England expects that every man will do his duty.” This is the utter essence of honor. The Empress of India’s man of honor, like Japan’s, did not live by a battery of laws. He lived by an ineffable principle embodied more deeply in human nature and perhaps in divine nature; embedded in the notion of the Queen herself. British law reflects it. In the earliest transactions, like those of the Glorious Revolution, the Queen is referred to as “the Body of the Queen.” As a person, she has no rights or being whatsoever. She is honor incarnate and the sacred tradition of England. We have traded that for a body of laws. But listening to the President’s comments last night on this State of the Union address, a question still remains whether we have traded up or down.

The President tells us, “Americans are addicted to oil.” I think we have been telling him that for the last five years, since he hired oil men and car guys from Detroit to run his Cabinet and tell him what to do. But there is an accusatory attitude here, as there often seems to be with this President. It is somehow a weakness on our part. Do I have this right? Was it not Prescott Bush, the President’s grandfather, who brought these people from New England to Texas in the endless search for oil and new wealth? For a minute I thought I had accidentally switched the clicker to the aggi channel and was listening to Willy Nelson at Farm Aid or Neil Young, tooling around Los Angeles in his biodiesel Hummer.

"In a complex and challenging time, the road of isolationism and protectionism may seem broad and inviting, yet it ends in danger and decline," he said.

How did we become so isolated? As I recall, six years ago we had more friends than we desired, sneaking into our country in tunnels and crashing ashore at Far Rockaway in leaky boats. Now we have new anti-American states again to our South and Russia is again rattling its nukes and cozying alliance with Iran.

Most confusing was the phrase about Iran being captive by a small group of fanatics. They seem rather like endless hordes, no? With more newly hatched in Palestine and democratically elected. To Bush democracy is a talisman. Like a shaman’s turtle shell. Rattle and shake it and you get rich, build good government and go to heaven.

The tenor and tone of the entire speech was to turn away. He seems one foot in Crawford, cutting brush, waiting for the next three years to end. As do so many others.

I turned by contrast to Wesley Clark. Two days before President Bush was to give his annual State of the Union speech, Wesley Clark was invited to deliver a speech at The New America Foundation in Washington, D.C. It was a great speech. And what pervades it is that to which I was drawn to him early on.

General Clark is old school. He lives by the rules, but he also lives by a code of honor. It pervades every utterance and every act. I heard him speak a number of times in the New Hampshire primary and I think it frightened people. And what I thought that meant was this: We admire men like that. But we are not yet ready to turn to a man of honor. Our failure is not yet great enough.

This is some of what Wes Clark said in his State of the World:

“Today, billions of people abroad believe that America's beacon is fading, our star is dimming, and that America's time is passing. Why?

“Because four years after 9/11, Osama Bin Laden remains on the loose in the fastness of western Pakistan, and Al Qaeda remains a potent force among millions of Muslims.

“Because the threat of terrorism has actually increased, partly as a result of the unnecessary invasion of Iraq, where after almost three years, we find ourselves enmeshed in an intensifying sectarian struggle that is drawing in jihadi terrorists like a magnet and creating a new cadre of hardened opponents to America and our friends.

“Because, despite our tough talk, Iran is discarding its international obligations in the apparent pursuit of nuclear weaponry, while simultaneously questioning Israel's existence and raising the specter of wider conflict in the Mideast.

“Because, North Korea, with a standing army of more than 1 million men, armed with chemical and biological weapons as well as long-range missiles, is defying US efforts to contain its threat of nuclear proliferation.

“Because, in the process of this struggle against insurgents and terrorists and the proliferation of nuclear weapons, we are in danger of losing the very principles we are fighting for as revelations of torture and degrading treatment of those detained confound our long standing commitment to human rights and undercut our moral strength and leadership.

“Because America's long-standing commitment to assisting democracy abroad was recklessly transformed into hot rhetoric and direct action in Iraq— and it has not only offended cultural and national sensitivities in the Middle East, but it is also contributing to the anger and violence in the region.

“Because while we are distracted by the war on terror, Iraq and Afghanistan, rising global competitors like China are taking advantage of the security umbrella we have created to lock in their own access to the resources needed to fuel their stupendous growth.

“Because the United States has stood silently while the historic opportunity of a democratic Russia is systematically crushed and other new democracies threatened by the same power ministries and entrenched authorities that enslaved hundreds of millions during Communism's long reign.

“Because our oldest friends and Allies, in Europe and Asia, are questioning America's commitment to the dialogue, institutions, and principles that kept us safe throughout the Cold War and even helped end ethnic cleansing in Europe during the 1990's.

“The plain truth is, in America's rhetoric and conduct since 9/11, we've made more enemies than friends in the world - and that's no way to protect the American people!”

As our nation opened, New England’s greatest visionary, Ralph Waldo Emerson, made the auspicious observation that we saw ourselves ascending a stairs. We have to ask ourselves now if we are descending that same set of stairs.

How deep must we descend? How great must our failure be until we turn in panic and disgrace to a man of honor?

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:16 AM
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1. And it's this integrity that makes the media ignore him.
You have to know our media sucks when Clark isn't as well known as some of the other contenders.

:kick:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:22 AM
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3. He IS well known but was soundly and rightfully rejected
by the vast majority of Democrats. Sorry but we don't need a power hungry, flip-flopping general leading our civilian government.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:43 AM
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:08 PM
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7. Uhhh... the media blatantly ignored him so he's not well-known.
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 12:08 PM by Clark2008
It's documented. I can't find the author who wrote the post-campaign assessment, but I'll whet your appetite with this from Clark Jr.:

Wesley Clark Jr. lambasted the national news media today for the way it has covered his father's presidential campaign, saying the coverage has been "all horse race and no issues" and that politics is "a dirty business filled with a lot of people pretending to be a lot things they are not."

The son of retired Gen. Wesley Clark, Wesley Jr., a 34-year-old screenwriter who lives in Los Angeles, shared his thoughts on this election cycle in the parking lot of the Oklahoma City campaign office, reports Dana Hull of the San Jose Mercury News.

Media coverage of his father's choice of clothing - his wearing of an argyle sweater was the subject of much discussion in New Hampshire - greatly annoyed Wesley Jr., as did reports in Oklahoma over the weekend that members of the Clark caravan got $150 speeding tickets as they returned from an event late at night.

Of the campaign, Wesley Jr. said, "It's been a really disillusionary experience. We sacrificed a hell of a lot for this country for 34 years. We lived in a damn trailer park when I was a freshman in high school."


No - he wasn't rightfully rejected and no, he's not a power hungry, flip-flopping general. You've spent too much time on Republican boards, haven't you?
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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:22 PM
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9. The Duck Principle
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 12:25 PM by xkenx
Ducks don't wear signs labeling them ducks. If it has a ducksbill, waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, then you know it's a duck. You ALWAYS know a duck when you see one.

Wes Clark is one of the Democratic Party's foremost progressives by virtue of his actions over the years, not by any labels that people want to throw at him simply because he had a career in the military.
It is time to appreciate just how lucky we are to have this national treasure. Just a few items:

--Clark was always butting heads with the stereotypical "macho" military Neanderthals because he saw the horrors of war firsthand in Vietnam and always espoused "diplomacy first."
--Clark was one of the leaders of the all-volunteer Army created after the Vietnam debacle. To keep personnel in you had to do a good job of providing for their family needs, health, education, equal opportunity.
--Clark actually won environmental awards at bases under his command.
--When Clark was working at the Pentagon in the mid-90s, he was virtually the only voice crying out to intervene in Rwanda.
--It was Clark's voice, along with Madeline Albright, who persuaded the Clinton Admin., over the objections of the Pentagon, to stop the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. Tell the Kosovar Albanians that Wes Clark isn't a liberal, progressive, humanitarian.
--It was Wes Clark's voice prior to the Iraq invasion who urged that we exhaust all possible diplomatic means before any military action, including in testimony to Congress.
--It was Wes Clark who filed an Amicus Curiae brief in the University
of Michigan affirmative action case.

Since when is it some kind of a black mark for someone to give to his country by serving in the military if he does so in a principled manner? Wes Clark felt that he could make the most impact by providing a progressive voice to that institution.

So I'd have to say Wes Clark is my Democrat, liberal, progressive "DUCK" because he has proved it.

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:21 AM
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2. True
These words are forgotten nowadays: "we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and
our sacred Honor."
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:35 AM
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4. Absolutely Great Read!!!!!!!
The only person ,who I felt, had ANY honor in the present administration was Colin Powell. Look what they did to him.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:56 AM
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6. Not to take anything away from Clark, I think every single major
Democratic candidate in 2004 was a man of honor - you do not have to be in the military or a General to be a man of honor. Look at why each got into politics. John Kerry is a man of honor, very honest who has held the government accountable when it violated it's own principles and laws. (As to following the rules, Kerry often speaks of obeying the law and the constitution.) He is a very clean politician. Dr Dean drifted into politics after being involved in projects that made the city he lived in better - the bike path in Burlington is spectacular and the town and its guests will enjoy it beyond Dean's lifetime. John Edwards was brought into politics to give back after his priorities changed with the death of his son. Gepheardt went into politics to help people like his own family - his dad was a milkman.

It is impossible to compare the level of "honor", but you can say all these men are above a high threshold.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:10 PM
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8. This in not a thread about Kerry.
Please stop turning all non-Kerry threads into them.

You want to start one on Kerry, be my guest.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:32 PM
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10. You post NEGATIVE things in every Kerry thread there is
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 01:59 PM by karynnj
I did not post a negative comment on Clark here - rather a comment that the article ignores that in 2004 the country did have a choice between an honorable man and a dishonorable one. As I pointed out this would have been true no matter which of the the 2004 hopefuls won.

You comment is obnoxious and completely unjustified, not to mention inaccurate. I mentioned Dean, Edwards, Gepheardt and Kerry, all positively as I do consider them to be men of honor. I think the same of Clark, but do NOT see him as more deserving of this accolade than the others. As the author of this Clark puff piece speaks as though this is something unusual, I thought it was important to point out that, by and large, the Democratic party has many honorable people at the top.

It takes a lot of nerve for someone who is very often slamming Kerry in Kerry threads to hypocritically say that this is post is wrong. I also see you have no problem with post 5 - which is abusive and anti-Kerry even though the poster he is responding to is NOT a Kerry person. Somehow, that doesn't bother your sensitive little mind.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:12 PM
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12. No I don't. That's a bald-faced LIE!
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 08:14 PM by Clark2008
I never post in Kerry threads - at all.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

I will admit to posting negative things about Edwards, but NOT about Kerry.

It takes a lot of nerve to accuse someone of something they don't do.

Go on with you. Shoo...
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:11 PM
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11. Yesterday: from Clark
“We have to stand as a nation, we have to look to the Declaration of Independence," said Clark. "We need to stand for humankind, equality of opportunity, believing in those in society who are least capable and taking care of each other, respecting others and reinforcing our allies, without making enemies with the rest of the world.
"We must respect each others’ values, families, spirituality, ensure all are treated equally without distinguishing characteristics…”

CC: That’s a tall order.
Clark: That’s the minimum.


I noticed a resident Clark-hater showed up earlier in this thread. It is so sad. Fortunately, Clark is out there spreading the word to those who are ready to hear it. Is there hope?

That's a tall order.


That's the minimum.

link to Q & A
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