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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:44 PM
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The Most Dangerous Alliance in the World
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/July06/Solomon20.htm

The Most Dangerous Alliance in the World
by Norman Solomon

After getting out of Lebanon, writer June Rugh told Reuters: “As an American, I’m embarrassed and ashamed. My administration is letting it happen tacit permission for Israel to destroy a country.” The news service quoted another American evacuee, Andrew Muha, who had been in southern Lebanon. He said: “It’s a travesty. There’s a million homeless in Lebanon and the intense amount of bombing has brought an entire country to its knees.”

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In the 40th year of Israel’s unconscionable occupation of Palestinian territories, Israeli leaders have their agenda. What’s ours?

It should include clearly opposing the most dangerous alliance in the world.

In the United States, evading the “might makes right” core of the alliance is easy. The dodge makes dropping bombs on Lebanon and Gaza that much easier for the Israeli government. As usual, you can hear it in the weasel-worded statements from even the better politicians on Capitol Hill. You can read it in New York Times editorials. Instead of saying that aggressive war by Israel “is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy,” the message is that aggressive war by Israel is accepted and embraced as an instrument of policy.

Most of all, you can hear it in the silence.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:48 PM
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1. The silence is an OFFICIAL silence
there is plenty of rage out here in workaday land.

People do NOT like what this government is doing, or in this case, not doing.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 03:51 PM
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2. I wish they'd relax then, get 'unofficial', and tell us what they
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 03:51 PM by babylonsister
really think. I'm speaking of every elected Dem out there. Why are they just toeing the party line? They can think this isn't their fight, but the ramifications could be deadly.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 05:17 PM
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6. The Fact Professional Politicians Most Note, Ma'am
Is that the great majority of the people of our country, and the great majority of Democratic voters, are favoreably disposed towards Israel. Hence they see no benefit to be gained by acts or statements denouncing it and its actions. They understand, further, that there is some harm risked to them, among the general public, by acts or statements of denunciation. This risk is twofold. First, while there are many sound criticism to be levelled against Israel, the loudest are couched in a shrill argot composed of cries of "Nazis" and "genocide" and "Jewish control" and the like, which actively repel a great many people, and which no professional politician will want to be even remotely associated with. Second, since the most active of Israel's real enemies are indeed radical fundamentalist Moslems, which the the people of the country regard in broad terms as enemies of the country, acts and statements of denunciation of Israeli actions can very easily be portrayed by their foes' propagandists as siding with the enemies of the country, which is a charge that tends to stick against Democratic political figures in the general electorate. Where one choice offers only multiple risks, and the other at least no signifigant prospect of harm, the choice of a professional in the trade is obvious.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 05:48 PM
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8. So for the moment they're taking the comfortable way out. I do
recall that was the M.O. in Iraq, too, until facts unfolded and many saw how dangerous that stance is/was.
I long for some honest politicians. I don't see the problem in denouncing Israel for their bellicose stance against the Lebanese citizens. I imagine that might eventually come, once it's politically correct to do so.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 04:12 PM
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3. Travesty...
No kidding...as if the little people have any control over the 'men with guns' or their own governments anyway and so elites use them as chess pieces in some game...

But...amybe this is a simplier way to deal with the situation...I personally am finding it harder and harder to separate Democrats from Republicans anyway...so the rest of us will not bother with any of the difference Americans see for themselves...

Your President Speaks for All of You, no? So I guess your all guilty of war crimes, yes?

Bit of hypocrisy to constantly suggest your a victim on 9/11 -- this policy suggests that 9/11 was an exchange in an eternal war played by your own rules.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 04:32 PM
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4. And they wonder why they hate us.
Our country is too far biased towards Israel. If we were either more even handed in our Middle East policy or even better not get involved, I am sure Arabs and Muslims in general would not have such the intense hatred of us.


John
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 05:19 PM
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 05:56 PM
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9. Aren't you generalizing a bit too much?
The actions of the Western powers are bringing average Arabs and Muslims towards embracing radicalism. We expolit their countries and people and then you have the hatred of Westerners. This has been proven time and time again for centuries. Radical groups like Al Qeada and Hamas feed off the people's fears and thus their numbers grow. I do not think all Arabs and Muslims woke up one morning and decided that they hate America and they hate the West. Give me break! It is our actions that have brought the world to this point. To say all Arabs or Muslims hate us is painting all of them with a broad brush and it borders on the bigoted. I am sorry but it does.


John
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 04:40 PM
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5. Political cover, NeoCon Ambitions. Bush Saudi Master's War w/Iran
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 04:41 PM by McCamy Taylor
These are the three benefits the Bush administration got when Dick Cheney told Israel "We have your back if you want to take care of Hezbollah once and for all"

See my post on this page entitled "Apocalypse Forever" at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2736085 for more details about the first two. The third is self explanatory if you remember that the Bush Family works for the Carlyle Group and the Saudi Royals are battling the Shias and Iran for control of the Middle East and the Saudi Royals are the ones making the Bush Family rich.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:12 PM
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10. hezbollah should be eliminated
they've been on a murderous rampage for decades. i remember 281 marines who were slaughtered while they were sleeping.

this only accentuates the chimp's failed policy. saddam was a buffer, a secular leader who although not an angel did not export death. the trouble has been with the theocracies (iran in particular) and its "party of god". F--k them.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:18 PM
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11. Oh stop the propaganda, there are positive aspects to Hezbollah
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 06:22 PM by ShortnFiery
and murderous parts of Israeli government.

Hezbollah is weaved into the fabric of Lebanon. Like we learned in Vietnam, "You can't kill them all. Plus those that live will fight you will all their might." You either have to leave that artificially created state OR learn to negotiate and integrate with the Arab peoples.

Bombs will only score you more enemies. And you are making them by the scores each day you continue this genocidal bombing campaign.

Have you no shame? :(

On Edit: FACT = The USA Killing Machine have Murdered more innocents in the past four years than Hezbollah and Hamas combined for their entire existence. We are the biggest terrorist in the world: The USA War Machine.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:06 PM
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12. you are being ironic, no?
are you a comedy writer?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:11 PM
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14. I could NOT be more serious. Please take one moment to view
this multifaceted organization from an civilian's in Southern Lebanon. They are militant but they do positive works also. They are like the IRA. Thank goodness Britain didn't launch a campaign into Ireland. Bombing tactics only make you MORE enemies. That is such a simple lesson. Why can't people learn from their military history?
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:15 PM
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15. oh gosh, i'm sorry
but i thought your post dripped with sarcasm.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:28 PM
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16. That's cool! I just wish they would stop the killing and dying over there
I have no ties to the Middle East and I'm a liberal Christian.

Why can't we just stop the killing and dying?

No good can come from a continued killing spree save for more dying and hate. :cry:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:10 PM
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13. Amen...
Everybody seems to accept and embrace war by Israel as an "instrument of policy"...
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:36 PM
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17. just the opposite
all i've seen on the news and my local papers vignettes about the rescue of citizens and allusions to big, bad israel picking on poor hezbollah.

i wonder why i haven't heard a peep from egypt, jordan, or syria. isn't it possible they want this nuisance (hezbollaks)permanently neutralized?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:52 PM
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18. Please let go of any pipe dream of neutralizing Hezbollah ...
Right now the bombing campaign is recruiting hundreds to their ranks. Remember, Hezbollah is multifaceted. The will be strengthened by aggressive warfare. Egypt, Jordan and Syria know that this genocide is only recruiting more to their ranks. Mission Accomplished.
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AusGail Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:42 PM
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19. I bet you never heard any of that shit from Fox News
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