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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:18 PM
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Neal Boortz backs "Fair Tax” supporter Hank Johnson in Ga.
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 06:23 PM by LincolnMcGrath
snip;
There is some good news from yesterday's primaries in Georgia. Last Evening's Moonbat Ball didn't go quite as planned. Cynthia (the cutest little Jihadist in Congress) McKinney invited her fellow moonbat and bosom buddy Cindy Sheehan (Omigod! Two Cindys!) to her victory party last night ... only there was no victory!

There were more votes cast against Cynthia McKinney yesterday than votes for her.

"with Democrat Hank Johnson who, by the way, is a supporter of the FairTax!

Link

Of course Republicans are crossing party lines in droves in part because of this issue, among others

snip;
I live in your district - moved here in 2002 just off of Memorial Drive (AKA Cynthia McKinney Parkway).
From Neal Boortz's website, I understand you are a supporter of the Fair Tax. I cannot impress upon you how important that issue is to me and my friends who live in this district. We all plan to cross party lines if need be to support Fair Tax friendly candidates.
You received my vote in the primary and will receive it in the run-off.


WhoDaThunkIt?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:28 PM
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1. Well, I live in Ga. and I DON'T support the Fair Tax, but I don't
support Cynthia either. I don't live in her dist. so it doesn't matter.

Sometimes Cynthisa is GREAT, but sometimes, she goes over the top! I don't doubt some Pubs crossed party lines, but I also think there were quite a few people in her district who have been embarrassed by her actions a few too many times, and voted for her opposition.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:30 PM
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2. I wonder why so many DUer's are for Hank Johnson?
"Fair tax" is another rightwing doublespeak term.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:44 PM
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3. I think the dlcentrist-zellocrats have cut and run tendencies at times.
You have to understand that when the GOP think tanks or fRight wing radio label (frame) an issue, it's course is forever set in stone for some.

Cynthia has been labeled too hot to handle, so rather than standing up, some gop enablers sit down, shut up, ands commence with nodding in agreement with the other side.


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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. It's generally the DLC contingent who are pro-Johnson.
The types who think African American congressmembers should know their place.

And why they're so obsessed with the confrontation with the capital cop I will never know.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Like KOS... right?
At least according to the link LincolnMcGrath provided.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:01 PM
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14. On this, Kos has been duped.
Why he wants to move the Georgia 4th district to the right is anyone's guess. Why he wants to replace a dove with a hawk is beyond human reasoning.

I've looked at Johnson's web page, and his whole appeal is "vote for me because Cynthia has to go". It's an ugly, negative campaign that will have no positive result. It's disgraceful that any responsible Dem is supporting it.

And every African American woman in the country will take Cynthia's defeat as a sign that they aren't welcome in this party anymore. You know that's going to be how they'll interpret it. Voting for Johnson is dissing the sistahs.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. Feminists have grown wary of Hank Johnson's tactics also.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. well, someone has been duped. And his intials are KB.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. nice
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #24
44. Well, he's more polite than Benchley.
Then again, so's Hezbollah.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #44
46. I can't disagree...
About the second part anyway!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #2
9. I wonder why so many DUers are for McKinney?
Her donor list reads like a who's who of Islamic organizations, she called Al Gore a racist, her website is hosted by a far right organization... should I go on?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. OH MY Towel Heads give money to Cynthia? How telling.
She did not call Al Gore a racist, you need to find better

DU hero

to quote.

Lets discuss your knowledge of who is hosting her website and how the knowledge came into your possession!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. yes, tons of money from Islamics. She did call Al Gore a racist
Cynthia's site is owned by a far right organization.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. No proof as usual?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. unlike you, I can provide proof
Islamic/Muslim donors to McKinney:

http://www.newsmeat.com/campaign_contributions_to_politicians/donor_list.php?candidate_id=H2GA11016&li=A

http://herndon2.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00256354/124538/sa/ALL

"Gore's Negro tolerance level has never been too high. I've never known him to have more than one black person around him at any given time."

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22Gore%27s+Negro+tolerance+level+&btnG=Search

Never mind that Gore's campaign manager was black.

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Shouldn't you be pimping one of your 3-4 "Hate Cynthia" threads?
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 08:54 PM by LincolnMcGrath
Oh wait, you just did.

:Rofl:

I don't see the word racist above, were you lying, or was that meant to confuse passers by?


Nice to see you came around and switched from calling ISLAMICS to Islamic/Muslim. Why the switch? And for the record, why do you have a problem with Muslim groups? Skin color? Religion? :shrug:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. oh, ok
So to be called a racisy, one has to actually have the term used.

If I said you were prejudiced against black people, that wouldn't be calling you a racist.
If I said you don't care much for hispanic people, that wouldn't be calling you a racist.

I get it. You're right. McKinney never said Gore was a racist. LOL!

Nice to see you came around and switched from calling ISLAMICS to Islamic/Muslim.

Mus·lim ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mzlm, mz-, ms-, ms-)
n.
also Mos·lem (mzlm, ms-) A believer in or adherent of Islam.

-------------------------

Is·lam·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-läm, z-, släm, ic)
n.

The people or nations that practice Islam; the Muslim world.

:shrug:

Same thing!








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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #9
41. Slander/Libel 101 of McKinney
You just read off the GOPs talking points here.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. LOL. Do you know the definitions of libel and slander?
Nothing posted here about McKinney is inaccurate.
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. Everything you posted is.
n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #53
56. LOL! Like what? Specifically...
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
31. I am a hard core democrat but I also favor "fair tax"
That is NOT an oxymoron.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. You can't afford a fair tax.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #31
47. Yes it is
"Fair tax" is just another name for cutting taxes on the rich and starving public services.

Think it through.

If you really think that a fair tax is a Democratic issue, then you're a Libertarian, not a Democrat, and you don't realize it.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #47
80. If being a realist makes me a libertarian democrat then
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 10:35 AM by fuzzyball
so be it. I can't be a libertarian though since I believe in so
many good things the government does, such as controlling the
destruction of environment, fight drug addiction, help the truly
needy, fund research which helps all such as the NH institute, etc.

Please see my post below regarding taxes.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #31
68. better educate yourself about the so-called fair tax
because you're just working against your own best interests (oh, unless you're a millionaire or billionaire). anybody that supports that RW, selfish, greed-head crap is an idiot, stooge, and sucker.

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blue collar welder Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #68
82. call me RW,selfish,greed-head crap idiot,stooge sucker
and any other names that you want,but I like the fairtax (HR25). The current tax code is 60,000 pages of horse shit. Even the tax panel said that it is the only tax plan that UN-TAXES the poor among us. Former Clinton labor sec. Robert Riche has been wanting to get rid of the most REGRESSIVE taxes on the poor. That being the pay roll taxes,which the rich stop paying after about $90,000.
And it's not only a RW. plan,there are many progressives out here that support it and I'm proud to be one of them. If the fairtax or WHEN it gets passed as written,it will be the best thing that has ever happed for us.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #82
83. Good post Blue!! n/t
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blue collar welder Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #83
87. thanx
I might be new here and I may be young butI do'nt care if a right wing bible thumbercomes up with a cure for HIV I'm not going to hold their poltics againest them, because if it helps the country it helps the world.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #82
89. Robert Reich does not support this plan.
When it gets passed, you will be in poverty, period, Taxed to the hilt on every nickle you spend.
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blue collar welder Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #89
99. I never said
Robert Reich supports the plan or not. What I said is he has called the payroll tax the BIGGEST and most REGRESSIVE tax on the poor. And if I will be in poverty,then I'll never pay a nickel,dime or quarter in taxes. PLUS I'll get all my welfare programs and on top of that I'll get check to cover all of my taxes.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #99
103. "all my welfare programs"
You need to study the fair tax scam a bit closer.
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blue collar welder Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #103
113. A bit closer hmmmm
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 12:48 PM by blue collar welder
I've been behind this plan for over three years. I think that I'm much more informed about it than you, and if you would like to start a new thread about it, I'd welcome the debate, as I'm sure many others would. And might I go so far as to say, that I think you'll be shocked to find out just how much support there is for this plan on our side. So the challange has been made!!!
You'll have to start the thread, as I can not start one being a newbie and all.But I double dog dare ya....
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #31
70. OK...tell us how supporting a regressive tax system is consistent
with being a "hard-core Democrat".

Nobody bought it when Jerry Brown tried that combo.

This "FairTax" idea, from what I can see, is about shifting the tax burden from the wealthy to the middle class, working class and poor.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #70
78. Ok, since you asked, here is what I think a "fair tax" system should be..
Total Taxes collected should be a fixed percentage of total incomes reported
by all, personal & corporate. IOW taxes should not be allowed to creep up or
slide down, based on earnings of people.

The higher your income, the more tax you should have to pay. If you income is
1 million $, you may have to pay $200,000 in taxes. If your income is $100,000
you should be paying about $7500 in tax. If your income is under $25,000, you
should be paying NO tax. This can be done easily by giving every one a high
personal exemption like $25,000 and then a flat tax above that.

I do not believe excessive taxes on high earners benefit us all. It is after all
the high earners who generally create jobs. My wife works at a large medical
practice where the doctors make excellent incomes. There are 40 doctors and 100
employees. If the doctors were taxed to death, some of them would "quit" working,
retire. That would not help many of those gainfully employed.

I worked for 23 years at a privately owned company. Made a good living wage.
Eventually, the owner of business decided to close shop since the profits were
not worth the effort required. During high profit years the company paid a lot
of taxes. When business was slow, there was no reverse tax money from the IRS
inspite of the losses. If the business was taxed at a lower rate, it may have
survived the slow business years better.

Just my 2 cents.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #2
75. I know next to nothing about this race, but
I have heard that the only Dem more ethically challenged than McKinney is that Jefferson guy with the freezer full of money.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:43 AM
Original message
What doublespeak does "Fair Tax" mean
to Hank?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #2
77. What doublespeak does "Fair Tax" mean
to Hank?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:13 PM
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4. I suppose if a Boortz endorsement doesn't set off alarm bells
nothing will. A fair tax democrat, isn't that an oxymoron or is he just a regular moron? Because there sure as hell isn't anything "fair" about the "fairtax".
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. IT KIND OF SHATTERS YOUR IMAGE OF HANK JOHNSON.
AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, HANK JOHNSON HAD AN ETHICS COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST HIM FOR ILLEGAL USE OF CAMPAIGN FUNDS. HE HAD A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHEN HE TOOK MONEY FROM LANDFILL DEVELOPERS AT A TIME WHEN LANDFILL ISSUES WERE BEFORE HIS COMMISSION.

HE HAD SEVERAL LAWSUITS AND GARNISHMENTS FILED AGAINST HIM FOR UNPAID DEBTS.

HE DIDN'T EVEN PAY HIS TAXES, RESULTING IN FEDERAL TAX LIENS AGAINST HIM AND HIS BUSINESS. HE FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY AND WAS SUSPENDED FROM THAT FOR FAILURE TO PAY WHAT HE HAD PROMISED.

ETHICS VIOLATIONS, CONFLICT OF INTEREST, LAWSUITS, TAX LIENS, GARNISHMENTS


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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. Yeah, sounds like a respectable alternative to me.
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 07:55 PM by Ken Burch
Right. :puke:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
17. You're quoting her campaign ad?
Cynthia McKinney Campaign Ad Transcript

Cynthia McKinney for Congress
60-sec. radio "Glass House" #CM-102-60
Draft 5

(FX: glass shattering)

(Music)

(Voice on police radio)

GOT AN APB ON A GUY, HANK JOHNSON, 51 YEARS OLD, LAWYER, CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS. REPORTED TO BE THROWING STONES AT HIS OPPONENT, CYNTHIA MCKINNEY.

(FX: police siren)

(Announcer, dramatic music under)

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW STONES.

AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, HANK JOHNSON HAD AN ETHICS COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST HIM FOR ILLEGAL USE OF CAMPAIGN FUNDS. HE HAD A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHEN HE TOOK MONEY FROM LANDFILL DEVELOPERS AT A TIME WHEN LANDFILL ISSUES WERE BEFORE HIS COMMISSION.

HE HAD SEVERAL LAWSUITS AND GARNISHMENTS FILED AGAINST HIM FOR UNPAID DEBTS.

HE DIDN'T EVEN PAY HIS TAXES, RESULTING IN FEDERAL TAX LIENS AGAINST HIM AND HIS BUSINESS. HE FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY AND WAS SUSPENDED FROM THAT FOR FAILURE TO PAY WHAT HE HAD PROMISED.

ETHICS VIOLATIONS, CONFLICT OF INTEREST, LAWSUITS, TAX LIENS, GARNISHMENTS

(FX: glass shattering)

IT KIND OF SHATTERS YOUR IMAGE OF HANK JOHNSON.

(Rep. McKinney)

THIS IS CYNTHIA MCKINNEY. I'M NOT PERFECT, BUT I'VE WORKED HARD, TOLD YOU THE TRUTH, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. PLEASE VOTE FOR ME ON AUGUST 8TH.

(Police officer on bullhorn)

MR. JOHNSON, PLEASE PUT THE STONE DOWN!

(FX: glass shattering)

(Announcer)

PAID FOR BY THE CYNTHIA MCKINNEY FOR CONGRESS CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE.

(FX: several police sirens)

(Rep. McKinney) I'M CYNTHIA MCKINNEY AND I APPROVED THIS MESSAGE.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. snipped yes, not quoted. It is all public record.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. Where is the public record? NT
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. Decalb County Georgia?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. You got some links to that? NT
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. of course he doesn't
While he's saying I have no proof of something in post 26, and is right trying to show some difference between "Islamic" and "Muslim," and trying to say McKinney didn't call Al Gore a racist when she said "he has a low negro tolerance level," he's twice avoided calls for proof of things in this thread.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. You're just dying to engage in your own personal Jihad against me here.
But, I won't be participating in your 'lock n delete' strategy this evening.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. YAWN
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. You could start here with one of the compaints.
Hank Johnson, Commissioner Larry Johnson, and Commissioner Connie Stokes used money out of their campaign accounts to contribute funds to the Committee for a Better DeKalb (PAC) to help pass the 2005 Bond Referendum? According to the Georgia Ethics in Government Act


http://www.godekalb.com/article.php/20060708105437688
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Hank Johnson isn't even mentioned in that. NT
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #37
42. Do some clicking!
The adverse issue the public is unaware of involve the 2005 Bond Referendum and the actions our CEO Vernon Jones and the DeKalb Board of Commissioners engaged in which alleged violated the Georgia Ethics in Government Act.

Would you like me to get Viola Davis on the phone for you? lol

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. I'd like SOMETHING a little more concrete than quoting McKinney's
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 09:29 PM by NYCGirl
campaign ad.

Edited to add: And an opinion from someone who calls him(her)self "voterwhocares".
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #45
52. Cynthia didn't file the ethics charges.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #52
55. I didn't say she did. I still haven't seen any substantial proof of
anything, except for her campaign commercial.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #55
59. So call the Decalb County Board in the morning?
Or try google?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. You're the one who made the claim, so the proof is up to you. NT
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #61
66. Ok Dear, check back in the morning.
I'll call Viola Davis in the morning and get more info.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #66
88. someone missed a deadline
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #88
90. I just got home stalker. Nice to see your personal Jihad against me is
still running strong.

Thanks for kicking my thread in my absence.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #90
93. in other words, you're still going to avoid providing proof.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #93
95. Personal Jihads suit you well.
I'll just call peachpundit!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #95
96. you hoped no one would remember your promise to make that call..
I'll just call Neal Boortz, you source for all things factual!
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #96
100. I already IM ed the info to those who asked
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #100
102. We all totally believe you did that!
LOL!

I'll ask NYCGirl, since she was one who asked. So when are you going to make that phone call?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #102
104. If I took you to the building the ethics charge was filed in, you would
only insist I prove the building really existed.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #104
106. all we want is proof of what you've said. We have no reason to believe you
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 12:07 PM by wyldwolf
Just a documented source. All we need.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #106
109. The group who filed the Ethics charge is not 'real enough' for you now?
Oh Boy!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. You've just been busted
In post 100, you said, "I already IM ed the info to those who asked." Well, also IMed "those who asked," specifically, the other party in this subthread. She says all you've done is send the same link that doesn't show anything you're asserting.

You've also not made that call.

Cop out.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #110
112. As I said, the group must not really exist. Alrighteee then.
That is why Hank's camp was quick to label the charges as lies. Oh wait, that never happened.

Every claim made in this thread by me has borne out true. I sent the same info I posted here. Is that the wrong way to go about it?

And seriously, are we doing this as a conference call or what?

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #112
114. ha ha! You're joking, right?
You made a claim. You were challenged.

You provided a link. It did not say what you claimed.

You said you'd make a call to get the info. You did not.

You claimed you IMed those who asked for the info. You did not - at least not to the two in this thread who asked for it!

You gave another link. Still nothing in it that says what you've asserted.

Every claim made in this thread by me has borne out true.

Only in your head.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #114
115. I didn't IM anyone now?


Ethics Complaint: Viola Davis with Unhappy Taxpayer and Voter Alliance vs CEO Vernon Jones/Dekalb Board of Commissioners on November 7, 2005. The statements to follow are alleged sinister and illegal activity submitted by the Unhappy Taxpayer & Voter to the State Ethics Commission.

Unhappy Taxpayer & Voter Alliance want to make the public aware of the following facts:

Did you know that CEO Vernon Jones, Commissioner Burrell Ellis, Commissioner Hank Johnson, Commissioner Larry Johnson, and Commissioner Connie Stokes used money out of their campaign accounts to contribute funds to the Committee for a Better DeKalb (PAC) to help pass the 2005 Bond Referendum? According to the Georgia Ethics in Government Act, this is totally illegal.
Did you know that 6 out of 7 elected officials stated the action they used to help pass the 2005 Bond Referendum was a private citizen despite taking money out of their campaign account, using their political title on the mail out and on the endorsement phone call?
Did you know that over $270,000 dollars was spent to influence the taxpayers and voters to pass the 2005 Bond Referendum and to ensure it passage the Executive branch of DeKalb governement cut public comment to make sure the public did not hear any opposing voices?
Please read the ethics complaint filed November 7, 2005 below.


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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #115
116. So whatever happened re: that complaint? NT
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #6
28. Johnson has "potential sellout" written all over him.(n/t)
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 08:43 PM by oasis
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:39 PM
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5. BRADBLOG; GOP filling Hank Johnson's (McKinney's opponent) coffers
July 25, 2006 — More proof emerges of GOP dirty tricks against Cynthia McKinney. The GOP and their media trollops in Georgia are attempting to limit voter turnout in the August 8 primary by telling voters that if they did not vote in the July 18th primary, they cannot vote in the August 8th runoff election. This Jim Crow-era attempt to interfere with the election has all the hallmarks of Karl Rove. In addition, the Republicans are filling Hank Johnson's (McKinney's opponent) coffers with cash. Johnson is seen as a "Republicrat" and a person who will not question the Bush administration on anything substantial. Of course, true to form, DailyKos supports Johnson and his thinly-veiled GOP agenda as the information gatekeepers and perception managers they are. Visit the McKinney campaign website.


In Georgia 4th District, its a return to yesteryear and Jim Crow — and some so-called Democrats are in on it (also a return to yesteryear).

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3126#comment-92792
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. because a commenter on a blog says so???
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. That stuff is public record, you know?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. at the link you provided, I seen no evidence of...
* GOP dirty tricks against Cynthia McKinney.

* The GOP and their media trollops in Georgia are attempting to limit voter turnout in the August 8 primary by telling voters that if they did not vote in the July 18th primary, they cannot vote in the August 8th runoff election.

* the Republicans are filling Hank Johnson's (McKinney's opponent) coffers with cash.

* Johnson is seen as a "Republicrat" and a person who will not question the Bush administration on anything substantial.

(well, I won't deny the last one. Anyone right of Chomsky is a "republicrat" in some eyes.)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
21. Sounds more like a feud between Bradblog and KOS than anything else. NT
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Yes, they have split on this race.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
7. God, those links made for sickening reading.
I'm not surprised Marc Cooper is moving in for the kill. Ever since the Pacifica war, Cooper has made it clear that he hates rank-and-file activist types, especially if they aren't white men.

BTW, what the f$%k is the FairTax? I have a sinking feeling it's another plot to shift the burden from the rich to the poor, with an Orwellian name like that for the concept.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #7
48. It's basically a flat tax
a huge sales tax to replace all income taxes.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #7
69. your instincts are correct. don't touch the "fairtax" w/a 10-ft pole
--just another scam on the part of the selfish greedhead pig "Libertarians" and repukes to reel in the suckers and stooges and make them pay a disproportionate share of taxes while they go off to their vaults like Scrooge McDuck to count their billions.
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:25 PM
Response to Original message
39. Hank's being supported by GOPers majorly; Cynthia is in trouble but
I think she may pull through, much like she did in 2004 against the other GOPcrats.

She has a lot of support among the downtrodden -- it must be because she constantly stands up for them, unlike Mr. Johnson, who was actually under serious investigation for his crimes, unlike McKinney's non-incident with a cop. Every time I have met Ms. McKinney she has given a good impression on me. She is a powerful voice and I support her 100%!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. not really
Among the many Democratic donors to Johnson are former GA Governor Roy Barnes and Jim Butler, a Columbus lawyer whose firm has helped bankroll the Democratic Party and its candidates over the past decade.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #43
49. They may be Democrats, but they may not like
uppity black women who, unlike the "respectable" Congresscritters, actually tells the truth about Bush and exposes the others for the lily-livered enablers that they are.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. They ARE Democrats, but they may not like
ANYONE who wastes time introducing bills to investigate the death of Tupac, slaps police officers, infers Al Gore is a racist (had to say "infer" so someone's obsession with symantics doesn't go into overdrive), accepts money from Islamic sources, plays the race card everytimes something happens to her, etc.

Remember, McKinney is a congresswoman who's #1 priority is serving her district. A majority in her district feel she hasn't done the job.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #51
60. I'm not familiar with the exact quote, but
Cynthia McKinney may have implied that Al Gore is a racist. You inferred that she had done so.

(My college writing instructor was a stickler on this pointl)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. "Gore's Negro tolerance level has never been too high....
... I've never known him to have more than one black person around him at any given time."

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #64
76. Okay, so she's implying and you're inferring
as I said. :-)
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #51
62. What is it with you and color/race?
ISLAMICS!!!!!!!!

TUPAC!!!!!!!!!


Talk about the race card. :eyes:

Was Frank Lautenberg wasting time introducing legislation honoring Bruce Springsteen? Or are you unaware of these kinds of bills?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #51
71. Er, you do realize that "Islamic" isn't a synonym for "terrorist"...
Aren't you?

Or are you saying that Muslims have no right to participate in American politics?

"dangerous ground", as someone put it in another context recently.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:53 AM
Response to Reply #71
74. yes I do, but I also know some ot fhese groups have ties to terrorists
like Rafeeq Jaber – president, Islamic Association for Palestine, a Hamas offshoot.

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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #74
86. Ah, skin color equals terrorist...
nice. :eyes:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #86
92. ties to terrorist groups equals terrorism - bad!
Hey, did you call Dekalb's office this morning and get that info you kept avoiding?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #92
94. Tupac = Brown skin = BAD!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:53 AM
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97. bill to investigate a "coverup" of his death = STUPID waste of time.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #97
105. Black rapper = Bad !
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #105
107. we're not discussing your taste in music, but rather a stupid bill.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #107
108. You brought up Tupac and ISLAMICS!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #108
111. Investigating a "coverup" of his death is stupid, as it taking money from.
...Islamic groups with ties to terrorists.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #49
58. Business - Industry PAC donating to Hank
whose president Greg Casey is a known Bush supporter.
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #43
54. Roy Barnes the DINO
Ah.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. LOL! You crack me up! Just how is Barnes a Dino? Oh, I know...
Edited on Sun Jul-30-06 09:54 PM by wyldwolf
...'cause he supports Hank Johnson! LOL!
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #57
63. As well as AIPAC and GOP fundraisers
And Neil Boortz. Johnson has a huge following among people who want the Democrats to sit still and make nice with Bush.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. as well as other Democrats
apparently not alot of people IN GEORGIA like McKinney.
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GAPeace Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. I'm in Georgia; I'm well acquainted with her district
Nearly the entire state legislature from her district support her, as well as do the civil rights heros, the King family and Congressman Lewis.

I see a lot of rich white people not supporting her. Hmm, I see a trend here.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:46 AM
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72. So am I, in fact as in her district yesterday
She has thin support.

Nearly the entire state legislature from her district support her

Really? Like who?

the King family and Congressman Lewis.

Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil-rights pioneer and the senior member of the Georgia Democratic congressional delegation, told Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) to stop making political hay out of her scuffle a week ago with a U.S. Capitol Police officer.

Lewis said other members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) had also told McKinney to back off, adding that she had little support in the group. It held an emergency meeting last night to discuss the issue, a House source said.

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/040606/lewis.html

So, what can you show us on King Family support of McKinney?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #72
98. We all totally believe you were in her District yesterday......
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #98
101. I live about 20 minutes away from it...
Edited on Mon Jul-31-06 11:57 AM by wyldwolf
..drove in a funeral procession down 78 West into Decatur, then back up 78 East towards Stone Mt. Not a McKinney sign in site. Johnson signs were like wild flowers.

On edit: Don't want to make you mad by editing this post, but when are you going to make that phone call?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 04:47 AM
Response to Reply #63
73. But how does this have anything to do with Roy Barnes?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
79. oh dear
the support of boortz tells me all i need to know
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 10:35 AM
Response to Original message
81. Hank Johnson statement on the Fair Tax
Statement from Johnson campaign:

Hank has expressed a willingness to carefully consider the FairTax proposal if elected to Congress. He will not reject it without giving it the consideration it deserves. He has never expressed outright support for the FairTax, however.

The only source that Johnson supports the Fair Tax is Neal Boortz - and LincolnMcGrath.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #81
84. That he would even CONSIDER the "Fair Tax" sends up red flags
That's sort of like "considering" supporting Bush.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #84
85. You don't really suppose that came from Hank's people do you?
After all, this is someone who mysteriously the first person on the internet to find out who supposedly owns Ms McKinney's website.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #85
91. as much as I believe your quote from Neal Boortz
http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/07/31/the-jury-is-in/

Oh, and I was the second person on the internet to find out who supposedly owns Ms McKinney's website. LOL!
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 01:02 PM
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117. Locking
This has gone well past the point of productive discussion
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