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EarlG ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:03 PM Original message |
The Grand Strategy |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well said. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Yep, but your observations are all about the past.. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'll sleep on it Earl, but I keep coming back... |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. How do we stop them, short of calling for carpet bombing of the ME? |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. Blair has proven exactly how incompetent bush is. |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. How Do We Deal With It? |
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Nostradammit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. They didn't "fail to prevent 9/11" |
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rnisson (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
64. Why don't they go balls to the wall |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. interesting question. why not? |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
100. And be accused of wearing TIN FOIL HATS? No thanks! |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. thanks earlg -- you answered my question when you said |
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Virginian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. War in Iraq does not = war on terror. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thank you. |
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prete_nero (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
8. Now what? |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Welcome Aboard prete_nero !! |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Part of the problem |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
102. Welcome to you too! (nt) |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Welcome prete_nero... |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Welcome into the light :-) prete_nero |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Welcome to DU! Nice post, a good angle to keep bringing up. nt |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. "George Bush is a miserable failure". Dick Gephardt's words ring |
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mrdmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
80. These are from Nexis/Lexis about airport security, 3 reports |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Great find. Thanks for the link. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
13. The problem as I see it is: |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. "We" don't have a message, and we won't by November either |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I can respect that |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
90. Effective communication is hard when the playing field is so uneven |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
70. "We CAN do better!" what idiot came up with that one? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Exactly. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
103. That's the $1,000,000 question. And one the Dems never answer. |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
14. Bush Admin sure has made us less safe and people don't seem |
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MtMan (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. Gore Would Have Stayed the Course in the (REAL) War on Terror |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Gore would have read the Hart/Rudman report and listened to Richard |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
104. Welcome to DU! |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
20. Talk about Hurricane Katrina, the greatest national security issue... |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
99. Agreed! We have 2 anniversaries coming up: Katrina's 1st & 9/11's 5th |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. Oh. I mistakenly thought the title suggested a "Grand Strategy" for |
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H2O (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Our message should start |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
93. My problem with what you say H20 is that "TRUTH" is not understood |
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H2O (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. I said it should "start" |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
26. if your goal was to create a permanent republican majority -- |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
27. I see the Dems creating an offensive Grand Strategy themselves |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Agreed. New proposals to counter their fluff. |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
28. Lots to ponder, EarlG. |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
29. Excellent. |
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jmondine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
31. Counter Strategy |
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KnaveRupe (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Good post, and welcome to DU! n/t |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. What an excellent point! (oh and welcome btw) |
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Brazenly Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
60. Well said! Welcome to DU! |
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rnisson (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
65. Not to mention... |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
32. So how many |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
33. The wide open Mexican border. Selling our ports to Arabs... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
78. "Osama could walk an army across the southern border" |
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NoBushSpokenHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
34. How about a National Poll |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
36. Will the DNC read this? Any Senators/House members? |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Echoing your post. |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
37. My SO's bushbot coworker was panicing over some trip she had planned. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
39. Henny Penny |
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crsharick (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Strong message |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. welcome to du, ip |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
68. Interesting to me that unnamed "officials" called this "the real deal." |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #39 |
71. Excellent post. WELCOME! |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
41. When, when WHEN did Democrats get the rep of being peace doves? |
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ArmchairMeme (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
45. Freedoms are disappearing under this administration |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. How right you are! I heard the glee in their voices too, and |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
46. we have a PEACE CORPS. this is what they do- |
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3reddogs (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. If Wishes Were Horses ... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. An even deeper question to ponder is.... |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
47. This is why Dems need to turn the tables & put the fear of god into voters |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:02 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. they need to turn the tables alright |
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zenturtle (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
48. "Bomb and borrow" Repugnicans |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
52. The Democrats.. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
53. if dems allow themselves to be drawn into debate about... |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
54. Just forwarded this to the Radnofsky campaign in Texas |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
55. They don't stop terrorism by creating more terrorists. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Exactly! They are Losing the WOT just like they bungled IRAQ nt |
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EarlG ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
57. Thanks for the great responses |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. And another: our republican leaders use terror alerts to scare people |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Plus FOLLOW THE MONEY..... |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
83. Wait, you haven't got mine yet |
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WestMichRad (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
95. No, you still don't have it quite right |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
98. Great minds think alike? |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
58. True, and yet... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
59. excellent post! let's get to work. |
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threadkillaz (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
62. They hate us for our freedoms. |
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rnisson (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I think Its just that they hate in general... |
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gully (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
67. "3000 dead on their watch." |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. 3,000 + 2,597 and counting |
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gully (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Ah yes. We musn't forget the troops. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. + 1836 in Katrina |
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gully (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. ++ increasing poverty |
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ktlyon (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
75. We can't let Bush separate Iraq from HIS war on terrorism |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
87. yeah, wasn't Iraq the centerpiece? |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
76. We need to point out the difference between stopping |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. Many of us have been screaming for a unified message |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
81. Republicans have already lost the first two wars on terror |
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SaneInSC (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. March |
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vickitulsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
84. Great discussion people! |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
85. Clark always had the right response for the national security crap |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
86. I always like to ask this question in response to "911 is good for us" |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
92. Well - in ultra simplistic and insulting ways, the dems could |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
94. Earl G...we've been dealing with this |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
96. exactly, they MUST get out and then support a UNIFIED message..... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-12-06 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
101. Well said. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-13-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. No deaf ears. We're the last best hope for democracy. |
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