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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 11:37 AM
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a new player entering the CT race for Senate?
Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 12:02 PM by welshTerrier2
this could be a dose of very bad news for Smokin' Joe ... it looks like there may be a new kid in town on the republican ticket ... and Smokin' Joe thought he would be the only republican in the race? this clearly is NOT a done deal yet ...

either way, Lieberman should save what little reputation he has left and get out NOW ...


source: http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/08/a-republican-headache-for-lieberman.html

Orchulli told us late yesterday that he's already been approached by state Republicans about replacing the hapless Alan Schlesinger as the G.O.P. nominee in the Connecticut Senate Race -- and that he'd "make himself available" to do it.

"Should the party decide that they want me, and should Mr. Schlesinger decide that he wants to step aside, I would make myself available to them," said Mr.Orchulli. "If I was in it, it would undercut the perception that Mr. Lieberman has the Republicans, and it would change the dynamic of this whole race."

And though the Times wrote after the election that Republicans hadn't much idea about a credible alternative candidate, Orchulli, at least, sees it differently.

"The funds would be there," he said. "There is personal money, and people have expressed interest in raising money."

So can Orchulli possibly be the guy? Or does all the praise of Lieberman by the Republican leadership, including Karl Rove, suggest that they have something else in mind?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 11:39 AM
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1. Is there a time limt? How long until Schlesinger has to stay...
...on the ballot?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 11:41 AM
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2. no idea ...
Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 11:43 AM by welshTerrier2
good question though ... it seems like there is still at least some time to switch candidates ...

i haven't ruled out Lieberman running as a republican ... there are some reports out of CT that Lieberman may not have the necessary signatures to run as an Indie ... not sure what the rules would be to have him run as a republican ...

added on edit: here's a DU thread about Lieberman's signature problem to qualify as an Indie: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2773283
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 11:42 AM
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3. For another candidate to replace
Schlesinger, he would have to volunteer to drop out. They can pressure him but they can't make him get out of the race. I don't know what the deadline is for him having to stay on the ballot.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 11:49 AM
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4. calico... or any other CT voter:
"Schlesinger... would have to volunteer to drop out." Does it have to be for, say, health reasons, or something legitimate like that, or can he just drop out for no reason? Do you know?

It seems that if, up until a certain date, he can just drop out for no good reason, we should be watching to see if any undue pressure is put on him to do so. It will be interesting.

In the undue pressure dept. -- where are the big-name Dems who should be trying to talk Traitor Joe out of his run? Seems Bill Clinton needs to be first and loudest, since he was so public in his support for Lieberman.

TC
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 11:58 AM
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5. just wildly speculating ...
speaking of the Big Dog and Mrs. C, a bunch of my little terrier friends and I were doing a little wild speculating this morning ...

this is NOT an accusation ... it's based on less than nothing ... but, fwiw ...

follow the bouncing ball ... Senator Pryor, Arkansas, said he's using some of his campaign war chest to help Smokin' Joe ... hmmmmmmmmmm, says I ... who else comes from Arkansas??

The Big Dog went to CT to campaign for Smokin' Joe ... how odd that a former Pres would pick sides in a primary ... hmmmmmmmm ...

wouldn't it be interesting if the Clintons are funneling money to Smokin' Joe through Pryor ...

"Joe, publically we can't come out for you ... it would kill Hill's chances ... so, here's what we can do to help ... we'll line up Pryor for funding and a few other big name Dems to get you some political cover ..."

i'm just sayin ...
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:00 PM
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6. No, he can just say he is going to drop out.
Doesn't have to be for health reasons. The Gov. and head of the local GOP both tried to get him to drop out but he refused. So its up to him.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:02 PM
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7. I think this is entirely possible .... and mybe already a done deal .....
.... I posted this the other day:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2769380

It was about Mehlman refusing to endorse Alan Schlesinger. At first I saw it as an endorsement of Holy. But it now appears to be somethng quite different.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:07 PM
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8. my take on the politics
Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 12:08 PM by welshTerrier2
Lieberman cannot win no matter what happens ... no details here ...

Schlesinger is widely disliked ... he doesn't have a prayer ... even his own party doesn't want him to run ...

and a new player? not a chance either ... CT is a blue state and that's that ...

so, what all the bruhaha? why would the republicans want a different player ... the answer is for pure propaganda purposes ... they want a better mouthpiece in this race to spew the national line ... they want someone who can could go head to head with Lamont and paint him, and therefore all Democrats, as extreme lefties ... Schlesinger is just not credible ... and while Lieberman might be, the smart money says he'll drop out ...

is this right? haven't got a clue ...
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:31 PM
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9. Well............
I think that if they do put up Orchulli as their candidate (he went against Dodd last time) he is a much stronger candidate than Schlesinger. I think what might be the hope behind this is that Orchulli will be an attractive enough candidate for most Republicans. Lieberman will then split the Democratic vote. Remember, most eldery people still prefer Lieberman and he does have some loyal following aside from them. With a good GOP candidate the Republicans in the state will have someone else besides Lieberman to vote for. The more loyal ones will and Lieb will end up being a spoiler for the Democrats because he will split that vote more than the GOP vote. I personally think this is the thought behind this....and a very real possible scenario.
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SPCAworks Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:37 PM
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10. meaningless
the repugs know the only way to wrest victory from the dems in ct. is Lieberman. no way a (r) will compete, he will NOT get much support.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:40 PM
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11. Not sure how Lieberman got the prefix Smokin' Joe
I know Joe Conason has that moniker, well deserved I might say, but I have always heard Lieberman referred to as Holy Joe or just that DINO. :shrug: learn something new every day I guess.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:47 PM
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12. yeah, you're right ...
wasn't it first coined for the boxer Smokin' Joe Frasier? i think he had it before Joe Conason ...

didn't mean to give Lieberman a new nickname ... maybe just think of it as his campaign going "up in smoke" ...
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