"If Bush knew about plan, why 2 weeks before liquids banned from planes?"

That's what Tweety just asked Fran Townsend, WH Security Advisor.

Damn, did she ever try and stumble through a response.



"Well.. ...

er..

we ah..

ah...

Uh... Oh, I know!!

... we didn't want to tip off the bad guys.

Yeah, that's what it was.. we didn't want to tip off the bad guys!!"

And if in the meantime there was another attack on the U.S. - well, it worked out very well for him after 9/11.

Just a guess. Don't want the American public making any more mistakes like THAT -- especially in November!

TC

Since you didn't vote as instructed, you will now have some privileges taken away and we will scold you.

Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.



He should've told everybody.

Go Tweety! I hadn't even thought of that particular hole in the story yet!

"How much will the thwarting of this terrorist attack effect votes in November? It's my guess it will be a lot"



Tweety makes one sane comment for every ten of his righty bias comments.

I hope C&L catches some of these out of body assertions of his.

You can't get people to bow to authority without a threat, doncha know

If there has been any sense of anger or disgust or determination to hunt these terrorists down and punish them, I haven't seen it. All I saw was a very short comment in Ohio that didn't really say much of anything. Well, he may have mentioned 9/11 a few times and threw in a few terra-terras, but there sure wasn't any shock and awe in his message.

So, they were risking hundreds if not thousands of lives because "they didn't want to tip of the bad guys" ???????

And then they make a big fuss about it AFTER everything is over? Just at a time when pro-Bush Lieberman was voted out? If that isn't politicizing terrorism, what is?

it wouldn't have served their purposes to release that information before the election. It was meant to be kept in the backroom until they saw the results of the tuesday primaries and whether to let this hit the news cycles. Thankfully, there are so many people asking VERY pertinent questions and being VERY skeptical about this.

I guess when W doesn't get his FULL vacation, nobody else will either.
What a bunch of Thugs.

in mid 90's.

on another discusion board here:
http://www.upsizethis.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=28461&hl=

Succinctly:
1) Intelligence has known since late July about this plan to smuggle explosives on airplanes.
2) It has already been established that liquid explosives in known and unknown configurations are capable of blowing up a plane.
3) Despite knowing that there was a plot and despite knowing that liquids could be the ultimate transportation of explosives, air travellers have been permitted to carry on liquids for the past few weeks with impunity.
4) If knowing there was a bombing plot and if knowing that liquids might be the conveyence, why the red alert and precautions taken AFTER the plot had been publicized.
5) And why allow dumping and mixing of unknown substances in large vats in crowded airports? From my point of view, public dumping and mixing of unknown chemicals would be a magnet for a terrorist hit.
6) What is the point of having an alert system if we are all in the dark until after the danger has passed?

Captialism versus safety. Freedom versus safety. As someone posted last night,"Let's fly naked". That would be safest. There's an article in my local paper about how much money a store is already worried about losing-not just drinks but all the things it sells that are liquid, lotions, jams, wines ect. This isn't some EVIL capitalist store as I know some think all capitalism is the enemy. It's a local handmade store.

Another point-they are claiming the suspects were so well watched that there was no chance these suspects would carry it off. But once announced-the cat is out of the bag and if anyone else they aren't aware of is planning the same thing-they started the new rules now.

However, you and others are very correct for real safety they should have done this years ago-they knew the threat. Now, of course they can't benefit from stopping an attack unless they announce they did stop one. Or maybe they should have just risked that they got them all. Either way, we know terrorism is always a win/win for our government.

I, don't like it though. I like my lotion. Lotion or death by bomb-what ARE the odds? Personally, I think we should profile. But, no liberal will ever approve of that. It's not just race, religion,sex it's the whole package. It's how someone acts. If we had the security they have in the Israel airport then we would know security. Just having been in London during the IRA attacks I know how much more serious it is. They actually look at you, imagine that-not just do everything by some rote handbook. I will never forget them examing opening up and examining my lipstick tube. Of course I looked shifty too-I was young and alone. That is your first profile right there. But no-we have to focus on grandma and the woman with the baby formula-making sure she drinks it. Sure anybody could be a terrorist-but again-everything in life is an odds game.

STUFF! Who benefits when everyone throws their "liguids, including PERSONAL PRODUCTS and MAKEUP in the DUMPSTER of AIRPORTS?

HUH? Who get's the benefit? You have to remember we live with a P-Resident with a "compromised mind," run by Big Business (Pharma, Personal Products, Bottled Water/Coke/Pepsi) and this will cause the day traders who have a "heads up" to make MILLIONS and the rest of the "peasants" who follow to buy the stocks who will benefit.

They are like watching Jim Kramer's "Mad Money" on CNBC. Whatever they HYPE through terror ALWAYS BENEFITS! :puke: It's SICK...but look at the Pattern here!