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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 10:55 AM
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How Washington Goaded Israel

http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/3444


There is increasing evidence that Israel instigated a disastrous war on Lebanon largely at the behest of the United States. The Bush administration was set on crippling Hezbollah, the radical Shiite political movement that maintains a sizable block of seats in the Lebanese parliament. Taking advantage of the country's democratic opening after the forced departure of Syrian troops last year, Hezbollah defied U.S. efforts to democratize the region on American terms. The populist party's unwillingness to disarm its militia as required by UN resolution—and the inability of the pro-Western Lebanese government to force them to do so—led the Bush administration to push Israel to take military action.

In his May 23 summit with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, President George W. Bush offered full U.S. support for Israel to attack Lebanon as soon as possible. Seymour Hersh, in the August 21 New Yorker, quotes a Pentagon consultant on the Bush administration's longstanding desire to strike “a preemptive blow against Hezbollah.” The consultant added, “It was our intent to have Hezbollah diminished, and now we have someone else doing it.”

Israel was a willing partner. Although numerous Israeli press reports indicate that some Israeli officials, including top military officials, are furious at Bush for pushing Olmert into war, the Israeli government had been planning the attack since 2004. According to a July 21 article in the San Francisco Chronicle, Israel had briefed U.S. officials with details of the plans, including PowerPoint presentations, in what the newspaper described as “revealing detail.” Political science professor Gerald Steinberg of Bar-Ilan University told the Chronicle that “f all of Israel's wars since 1948, this was the one for which Israel was most prepared. In a sense, the preparation began in May 2000, immediately after the Israeli withdrawal …”

Despite these preparations, the Bush administration and congressional leaders of both parties tried to present the devastating attacks, which took as many as 800 civilian lives, as a spontaneous reaction to Hezbollah's provocative July 12 attack on an Israeli border post and its seizure of two soldiers.
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the criminal bushmilhousegang snookered the Israeli people. not their neo con govt. but the citizens of Israel.

now they know how americans feel after the neo cons snookered us.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 11:37 AM
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1. Fascinating article...worth reading the whole piece. Also explains
why Dems stood up to defend Israel's action. I wish I knew who had instigated this defense on the Dems part, though. I'd hate to this that every Democrat supports Bush's "Doctrine of Pre-emptive Strike."

Quote from your snip from article:

Despite these preparations, the Bush administration and congressional leaders of both parties tried to present the devastating attacks, which took as many as 800 civilian lives, as a spontaneous reaction to Hezbollah's provocative July 12 attack on an Israeli border post and its seizure of two soldiers.
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alvarezadams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 12:50 PM
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2. What else is new?
The Americans and Israeli neocons share common supporters. Not just thinktanks but even actual people in both countries... such as Pearle and Wolfowitz.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 01:28 PM
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3. Yup, I figured this was Plan B of the Bushite/NeoCon "Project for a New
Edited on Tue Aug-22-06 01:45 PM by Peace Patriot
American Century": get Israel to do it. It looked so "innocent" and all. Israel gets attacked; Israel "defends itself." It pretty much smelled from the beginning, but, with all our Dems playing along--as well as the war profiteering corporate news monopolies--it's hard to sort out what's happening. I think what's happening is that the American people are balking at the corporate oil war. Why not fast-track alternative energy instead of killing lots of people, for godssakes? --is what they're thinking. Over 70% now oppose the Iraq war/occupation. A similar number disapproves of Bush for starting this unjust war--and for being a fascist shit-head generally. A whopping 84% (!) oppose any U.S. participation in a widened Mideast war (--recent poll posted here at DU). The Bushites could safely proceed with only a simple majority opposing them (56% opposed to the Iraq war in Feb. 03, before the invasion), given the levels of "support" that Diebold and ES&S could manufacture without too much suspicion (a 5% to 10% "thumb on the scales" for Bushites and warmongers/corporatists--in the new electronic voting machines coming on line 2002-2004, via the nearly $4 billion boondoggle provided by Tom Delay and Bob Ney). 56% was easy to overcome. 70%-80% is not. Thus, the widening of the war--the PNAC plan all along (you wonder why they put 15 permanent US military bases in Iraq?)--had to be accomplished some other way. They have leverage over Israel--purse strings, Israel's general vulnerability, and its particular vulnerability in having the hated Bush Cartel as its only ally in the world. Israel has helped to create yet more havoc for them (in addition to Iraq). The situation is now ripe for "Gulf of Tonkin II"--a manufacured incident to justify the US jumping into the widened war, and widening it further. THAT will likely be the "October Surprise."

Driving the situation--pursuit of this absolutely nutso plan for US/Israeli occupation of the entire Middle East--are three things: 1) the Bushites need Mideast conflict to mask over Stolen Election III (--although the Dems have often been pussies for the war, enough of them are out for Bushite blood for Bushite crimes (especially egregious violations of the Constitution, but also common thievery and war crimes), that a Dem Congress is a threat to Bushite hides); 2) Israel's rightwing leadership is so hogtied to militarism that they can't see anything else--no future*; and 3) war profiteers on all sides, laughing all the way to the bank.

It would be wonderful if some Great Grandmother Goddess could wave a magic wand over the Middle East and disable all modern weapons. We might then have a more manageable Bronze Age debacle. But the Bushites are gambling with the Total Destruction of Mankind in order to control the Last Oil and keep the Chinese from getting it from Iran. Let's not be silly here. This is not a religious war. It's a war about PROFIT. The Oil Cartel puppeteers are USING everybody's religions to further their ends. But the ones who are pulling the strings care not for God or religious piety of ANY kind. They are Social Darwinists--"might makes right" (--so ironical that they would be dissing Darwin as to biological evolution/adaptation!). The Bush Cartel and associated Oil/Energy Conglomerates. And Israel has made an enormous--and possibly tragic and fatal--mistake in allying itself with this cold, callous, hated regime; hated not just by us, its latest victims, but by just about everyone on earth.

For instance, everything that has happened in Latin America, recently, has been aimed at democratic SEVERANCE from this same regime of global corporate predators. Peaceful, democratic, leftist revolutions have occurred throughout the hemisphere--in Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Venezuela and Bolivia (with strong leftist, SEVERANCE movements also in Peru, Nicaragua, Mexico and other places). In Bolivia, one of the main issues was Bechtel and its effort to privatize the water. In Argentina, onerous World Bank debt and IMF policy aimed at destroying all social programs. In Venezuela, unfair oil profits to the rich oil elite and U.S. oil giants. The common theme in all of these countries: they want an END to U.S. corporate domination. They have successfully thrown off the bloody regimes we have inflicted on them. Now they want national, and above all, REGIONAL sovereignty. (This is the basic idea of the Bolivarian revolution.)

The Mideast ALSO needs REGIONAL sovereignty. It needs to stop being the bloody playground of western oil companies and global pirates. And if Israel doesn't grok this fairly soon--and do something dramatic to ally itself with its neighbors--yes, its neighbors!--it will not survive. Threatening WW III, and all of humanity, is not the way to win friends and influence people. Israel is going to end up with NO FRIENDS--not even the American people (its ONLY stalwart ally--the Bushites are treachery personified, and are also a quite rickety regime with almost no support). On the other hand, if Israel could find its way to detente with Iran--an event that would likely require a quite dramatic gesture, say, apologizing to the Iranian people for Israel's part in destroying their democracy in 1954 (and inflicting Iranians with 25 years of torture and oppression under the horrible Shah--the thing that DROVE these potentially progressive Muslims into the arms of the mullahs)--Israel would instantly gain billions of friends around the world. Indeed, the world would weep for joy!

The Iranian rightwing says things like, "Destroy Israel," and they resonate with some Iranians, because Israel helped to destroy their one chance at democracy. THAT is a fact. Our myopic population may not remember it, but the Iranians DO. They lived it. Neutralize that legacy--that painful, bitter memory--with a peace-making apology, and it will cut the ground from under the Iranian rightwing.

Continue to play games with the Bush Cartel, and Carl Sagan's prophetic book, "The Cold and the Dark," may be the legacy that Israel leaves to a dead planet, devoid of all life. "The Cold and the Dark" describes what even a limited nuclear exchange will do to our atmosphere. Everything on earth will die.

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*(I am haunted by an interview I heard on C-Span a couple of weeks ago, of three young Israeli tech workers, who feel that they are in a "hundred years war." They saw no hope of peace in their lifetimes, or in many lifetimes to come. They supported the bombing of Lebanon but with a strong note of fatalism in their voices--they sounded so depressed! There was NO vision of peace. They were resigned to more war, basically forever. And I imagine that the Israeli rightwing and war profiteers continually foster that sense that Israel cannot exist except as a medieval fortress bristling with armaments in the midst of hostile neighbors. And of course the Bush junta would foster it, pushing Israel into a yet more militaristic mode, to further Bush Cartel ends. THEY would like Israel to be in an irredeemable position, vis a vis its neighbors and also the Palestinians. This is a TRAP for Israel. The Bush Cartel cares NOTHING for Israel--or for Judaism or Christianity, for that matter. And whatever contribution Israel COULD make to Middle Eastern culture--which I think is considerable--will be lost in the conflagration that swallows Israel up, if the Bush Cartel has its way. If it's a nuke conflagration, all of the earth may be lost. If it's a conventional/asymmetric conflagration, only Israel will be lost. The Bush Cartel has a TEMPORARY interest, spanning mere decades, in control of the Mideast oil fields. They DON'T CARE what else happens. That should be very clear to everybody by now--but it may be harder for Israelis to see, because of their on-going vulnerability and battle fatigue, which these young Israeli tech workers I heard on C-Span expressed with everything they DIDN'T say--no vision of peace--and in their fatalism about endless war.)


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 10:25 PM
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6. A good read what you say....very sad and sobering........
If only Israel would seize the opportunity you suggest. But, it's such a long shot. And, they would lose Bushied money support. So, they are as tied to Bush as he drags the whole ME into flames as we are right now.

It's the Mess that the Bushies made...and I just can't understand why the rest of the world sits by and watches it unless it's our American Karma coming home to bite us in the ass...and no one wants to get in the way. :-(
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 03:19 PM
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4. Don't forget the coded messages sent in public
Blair: I don't know what you guys have talked about, but as I say I am perfectly happy to try and see what the lie of the land is, but you need that done quickly because otherwise it will spiral.

Bush: I think Condi is going to go pretty soon.

Blair: But that's, that's, that's all that matters. But if you... you see it will take some time to get that together.

Bush: Yeah, yeah.

Blair: But at least it gives people...

Bush: It's a process, I agree. I told her your offer to...

Blair: Well... it's only if I mean... you know. If she's got a..., or if she needs the ground prepared as it were... Because obviously if she goes out she's got to succeed, if it were, whereas I can go out and just talk.

Bush: You see the irony is what they need to do is get Syria, to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's all over...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5188258.stm

Was this an accidental leak? Gimme a break :D

Message:
Condi will soon be going for peace, but not yet, so you will have time to get Syria to stop Hezbollah.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 10:28 PM
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7. I question that "rolling camera leak" these days, too. Was it real or not
and even though it made Bush look like the "chomping food ass" he really is ..the conversation was a little odd considering the crises going on that was so immediate. Blair doesn't come out looking too good either.

They are very bold. What gives them so much confidence? Who else is supporting them that they could sit back and watch what went on? Watch and wait like spiders waiting for the fly to come into the web....
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 04:59 PM
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5. guess what this means for the US for the conceivable future.
we will no longer be trusted by any party, any side, any sect or any government that has even a minority of Shia or Sunni citizens. Nor, by anyone in a dispute that wishes an honest power broker as an arbiter.

The democrats who bent over backwards to support the lies and spin used by Bush and Israel to support this incursion had better think twice.
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