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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:56 AM
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The swift-boating strategy is now extremely dangerous
The Strategy..

Study your enemy. Discern that which would be his greatest weapon, make it your own and strike first with the force of a thousand tongues. For surely as you have wielded his own weapon against him -- as you strike with that very thing which threatens you most -- you break its power; you render it mute, and feeble.

The new greatest weapon against the bushies is the truth that they are becoming a fascist government, they are going to start crushing dissent. People on the the left will of course scream the word fascism, but it will have lost it's true meaning it's power has been broken. This is a common trick for the neo-fascists(cons) accuse your opponent of the very thing you are becoming.

This is a very dangerous turn of events, with this latest transference and projection, they are trying to paint the left as enablers of the enemy and therefor should be treated as the enemy. If this stench gets magnified by the right wing noise machine and the religious wackos on the extreme right embrace this swill, they will become the new enforcers like the Nazi SS and a docile American public will cower with fear. It sounds like a futuristic sci-fi novel, but I think this could happen

I have never been more afraid for my country.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:05 AM
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1. Rummy is well versed in Orwellian language...
his projecting has been driving me nuts for 4 years... but will the sheeple EVER catch on??!

I'm trying not to feel hopeless, but it's difficult. :(
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:26 AM
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9. As long as GOP control of the corpmedia goes UNEXPOSED this is going to
remain our reality.

And nods to the OP - your post is DEAD ON.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:09 AM
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2. I'm afraid for my country too
I think this is a point-of-no-return moment.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 02:17 AM
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3. Appropriation Framing. Projection.
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 02:22 AM by Hissyspit
Whatever nomenclature you apply to it, it works. As ludicrous as most Americans find the pronouncements from this administration, the strategy works because it forces people to be befuddled momentarily. It muddies the discourse and reinforces the confirmation bias of those who do believe they speak the truth or those who are easily swayed. It frames the debate. Ironically, of course, it is a fascist tactic.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:41 AM
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4. A MIHOP terrorist attack in October. Bush declares state of emergency ...
Constitution is suspended, dissenters rounded up, seat of power permanently seized.

Can't happen here?

Where else?
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:52 AM
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5. Yes, they are using the word "Fascism" now
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 03:54 AM by Morereason
If you get the "meme" out there and define "Fascism" on your own terms it becomes more difficult to use the word accurately. I have no doubr Rumsfield and the administration is doing this on purpose. They have heard the rising tide talking about their administrations fascist tendancies. What better way to disarm the truth than to redefine it?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:58 AM
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6. The ONLY reason it works is because it's allowed into the debate, despite
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 05:59 AM by ixion
the fact that it's a misuse of the word, and more importantly, and obviously ploy to make the word meaningless, as they've done with words like 'freedom' and 'patriot'. :grr:


The proper response is to simply not allow this kind of garbage to enter into the debate. It should be mocked and discarded for what it is: empty rhetoric.



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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:27 PM
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14. Hi Morereason!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:12 AM
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7. From HuffPost: "Islamic Facism": The Buzzword that makes us Weaker.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/islamic-fascism-the-b_b_28354.html

The term "Islamic fascism" is demonstrably inaccurate in describing the threat we face. It's been ginned up to stifle any genuine debate about how best to defend ourselves, and for partisan political gain. But that's not the worst of it: it also weakens us. It uses a false historical analogy to confuse us, leaving us less able to analyze and react to the genuine dangers around us.


"Islamic fascism" (let's call it "IF") promoters are fond of quoting George Santayana, who said "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." The problem is that they've completely failed to grasp the lessons of history, and have crafted a term that misleads and paralyzes.

Here's an epigram for you: Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to mindlessly repeat Santayana's epigram about those who cannot remember the past.

IF is a propaganda creation in the classic sense of the term. Anyone with a grasp of history knows that "fascism" entails intense nationalism and collaboration with large corporations, both of which Islamists reject. They do practice intense control of individual behavior, which is hateful but not limited to fascist movements.<snip>

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:59 AM
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8. That is why we must call them on Cowardice!. . . . . n/t
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:46 AM
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10. For those who think this is alarmist paranoia on my part!
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 11:47 AM by Check12
I just found this in a DKOS comment about freeperville and the Olberman commentary last night.

"I wonder if oberman has children;or nephews/nieces etc. All of these idiots that refuse to allow the front loading of a looming confrontation will be directly responsible for the fact that in all likelihood OUR children will absolutely be involved in a life or death struggle to preserve OUR nation. The very same elitist , do nothing but babble , morons that decry every use of force , every vengeful indiscretion, every PERCIEVED slight, of a murdering Islamofacists rights, will be the very same people that squall like stuck pigs , when all of our children are fighting and dying because of the aformentioned idiocy.

I just hope the marksmanship I taught my children can keep them alive when it becomes the difference between those that make out alive and those that don't .

The really terrifying aspect of all this is the open borders issue and how it darn near grandee's that 5th columnist are or will be in place to harm us in a much more personal way than Hitler ever did. 56 posted on 08/30/2006 8:16:31 PM PDT by ping jockey (radical islam; the great evil of all times.)"

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They are out there folks, ready to fight you and me, we here at DU could seriously be in grave peril very soon.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:50 AM
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12. Oh, I'm not worried about them.
I'm worried about our Constitution, not people who fantasize that someday they'll be using their guns in some sort of civil war here.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:49 AM
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11. Absolutely.
I agree. :thumbsup:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:52 AM
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13. So why the hell can't we do this BACK on them?
Taste of their own medicine, yanno?

Why can't we send it straight to the "you can sure dish it out but ya can't take it, can ya?" department?

Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it when the tables are turned and the door swings the other way and smacks them in the face. Study your enemy. Take his strengths and use them against him. Why NOT???
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:23 PM
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15. Don't be afraid; unlike the German left before the war, we'll fight.

Fuck those guys.
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