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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:53 PM
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Fear-Fear-Fear! as Fleet of US. ships leave to bomb Iran?
Now go out and vote for the republican of your choice, with posts like this, who needs Rove??
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:58 PM
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1. whooo - doesn't that just scare the begeezuss out of ya?!! Bush #'s bounce
defcon level increases ut-oh!!!! get the duck tape
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:01 PM
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2. Imagevision...
Stop that "vote Rethug crapola"

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p.s.... I know you're joking!! LOL~
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:02 PM
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3. not really sure of your point.
If ships are indeed leaving to invade Iran, its worthy of discussion.
If I want to discuss it, in the context of my concern for this insane administration, are you saying I'm doing Rove's work for him?
How is that logical? Wouldn't his work be better accomplished by saying nothing at all and pretending it wasn't happening, or better yet, jump down the throats of those who ARE noticing?

perhaps you can clarify.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:12 PM
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4. raisng the fear factor (mushroom clouds?) it's an election scare tactic
GOP with nothing to run on, Bush can't rely on gas price drop to secure not losing the house and senate alone and must instill the fear factor. Bush could never bomb Iran without a vote for going to war requiring a majority vote from the senate. So fear no evil baby...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:19 PM
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5. you're more optimistic than I.
I believe the unitary executive can and will do anything he damn well pleases. Who is gonna stop him?

no, think about that question seriously....If he starts a war without congressional approval, WHO is going to stop him?

congress? sorry, rubber stamps

supreme courts? sorry, rubber stamps, there too.

who is going to stop him?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:50 PM
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9. who is going to stop him? - Russia & China won't appreciate Bush
messing with their Oil/gas supplier (Iran) Bush could never bomb Iran before elections and with the change in power wouldn't get goto war approval. All Rove knows is use the fear factor, "ships leave Norfolk yo bomb Iran" Such headlines I believe couldn't be more misleading but if they scare you/ they will have accomplished the purpose for their being reported.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:53 PM
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10. you're talking repercussions, I'm talking prevention.
there are repercussions to everything. My point is who can stop him?
Not who will be royally pissed off about it.

I don't appreciate the condenscion in your post, btw. I can be concerned about something independent of Rove. Its not like this administration has a history of poor military judgements or anything...

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:09 PM
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15. What're they gonna do about it?
Start WWIII? ha ha ha
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:23 PM
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6. The fleet is leaving to
pretend they might have to bomb Iran, then at the last minute when it appears all is lost and WW3 is about to begin Mr. A(can't spell it from memory) will back down and agree to limit Iran's nuclear work to energy production because he's sceeerrrd of the mighty Bush. October surprise!!!! They have been rehearsing this for months
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:25 PM
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7. and we were assured that the ships being sent to Iraq were just
"saber rattling" also.

remember?

Its way too expensive to send ships and troops if you don't expect to actually use them.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:27 PM
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8. Indeed, the fleet leaves whenever there is an international hiccup.
It is a most impressive sight to see hundreds of ships leaving Norfolk bound to? It makes the papers everywhere...

Frankly, it is a typical show of bravado that is so typical that it in effect means nothing in and of itself. Unless, of course, it does.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:53 PM
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11. pretend they might have to bomb Iran? at least until election day...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:55 PM
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12. Iraq was just "saber-rattling"...remember?
am I the only one who remembers this? I was arguing vehemently then, as I am now, that bush fully intended to invade Iraq.
But everyone kept telling me, oh no, he would never ACTUALLY invade. Those troops are all for show, just to scare 'em.

well....

we know what happened, right?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:14 PM
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17. The difference is that Iraq
had been "soften up" for 13 years prior, and look where we're at there. Iran has a standing operable military, including airforce, something Saddam did not have, not to mention unless Bush were to the most massive pre-emptive strike in history Israel is doomed and I am not sure even GW would do that.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:01 PM
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13. I just got this email from Dennis Kucinich's office:
Edited on Fri Sep-22-06 04:03 PM by nealmhughes





From: Dennis Kucinich <automated_messages@kucinich.us> Add to Address Book
Date: 2006/09/21 Thu PM 10:40:00 EDT
To: Neal Hughes
Subject: An urgent message from Dennis Kucinich on US vs. Iran






Urgent Letter from Dennis Kucinich
about Bush Administration Plans for a US War vs. Iran

Dear Friends,

The Bush Administration is preparing for war against Iran, using an almost identical drumbeat of weapons of mass destruction, imminent threat, alleged links to Al Queda, and even linking Iran with a future 911.

In the past few months reports have been published in Newsweek, ABC News and GQ Magazine that indicate the US is recruiting members of paramilitary groups to destabilize Iran through violence. The New Yorker magazine and the Guardian have written that US has already deployed military inside Iran. The latest issue of Time writes of plans for a naval blockade of Iran at the Port of Hormuz, through which 40% of the world's oil supply passes. Other news reports have claimed that an air strike, using a variety of bombs including bunker busters to be dropped on over 1,000 targets, including nuclear facilities. This could obviously result in a great long term humanitarian and environmental disaster.

Earlier this year, I demanded congressional hearings on Iran and was able to secure the promise of a classified briefing from the Department of Defense, the State Department and the CIA. When the briefing was held, the Department of Defense and the State Department refused to show and are continuing to block any congressional inquiry into plans to attack Iran.

Just this past week, the International Atomic Energy Agency called "erroneous, misleading and unsubstantiated" statements relating to Iran's nuclear program which came from a staff report of the House Intelligence committee. Other intelligence officials have claimed over a dozen distortions in the report which, among other things, said Iran is producing weapons grade uranium. The Washington Post wrote: "The IAEA called that 'incorrect' noting that weapons grade uranium is enriched to a level of 90 percent or more. Iran has enriched uranium to 3.5% under IAEA monitoring."

I have demanded that the Government Oversight subcommittee on National Security and International Relations, of which I am the ranking Democrat, hold hearings to determine how in the world the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, viewed the report without correcting the obvious inaccuracies before it was published. Once again a case for war is being built on lies.

You will recall that four and a half years ago I warned this nation about the deception behind the build up to war against Iraq. Everything I said then turned out to be 100% right. I led 125 Democrats in opposing the Iraq war resolution in March of 2003. The very same people who brought us Iraq in 2003 are getting ready to bring us a war against Iran.

With your help, I will lead the way to challenge the Bush Administration's march to war against Iran. Please support my campaign for re-election with a generous donation to help continue my work in the Congress. The plan to attack Iran, on its face, threatens the safety of every US soldier serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention the countless Iranian lives at risk and the threat to world peace and environmental catastrophes.

With your support, I intend to continue to insist upon:
(1) Direct negotiations with Iran.
(2) The US must guarantee Iran and the world community that it will not attack Iran.
(3) Iran must open once again to international inspections of its nuclear program.
(4) Iran must agree not to build nuclear weapons.

Many of you joined me three years ago as I ran for President to challenge the deliberate lies about WMDs, Iraq and 911, Iraq and Al Queda and the Niger "yellowcake" claims which put us onto the path of an unnecessary, illegal, costly war in Iraq. The Iraq war has caused greater instability and violence in the world community. In the meantime, our government has used the oxymoronic war on terror to trample our Constitution, rip up the Bill of Rights and rule by fear.

Please join with me as we continue our efforts for the end of fear and the beginning of hope, for international dialogue, for cooperation and for peace.

Thank you,


Dennis

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:08 PM
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14. Kucinich is a Rove plant
:sarcasm:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:10 PM
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16. he MUST be, according the OP
no one can be concerned about this unless they are doing Rove's work for him.

:sarcasm:
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