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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:28 AM
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Retired officers challenge Bush on torture
Sunday, October 01, 2006
BY CHARLES KAISER

.. For all 43 retired generals and admirals, it was a combination of moral outrage and deep disgust over President Bush's proposed legislation on interrogating terrorist suspects that propelled them into unfamiliar territory.

"None of us feels comfortable speaking out publicly," said retired Rear Adm. John D. Hutson, who served as the Navy's judge advocate general from 1997 to 2000 and presided over the JAG corps' 1,600 members. "That's not the nature of what military officers do ... care very, very much about the country and the military -- and that's why are speaking out." ..

Retired Brig. Gen. James P. Cullen was chief judge of the U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals. "I grew up in an Army where the rules were very clear and where servicemen and women had no question about what their obligations and responsibilities were under both the Geneva Convention and our domestic law," he said. "When you have a winking-and-nodding policy , that just brings about the consequences that we came to view at ." ..

" Cheney made mention in the days after 9/11 that he wanted to operate sort of on the dark side," Cullen said. "Here was a guy who never served, and now something terrible had happened, and he wanted to show that he was a tough guy ... So he's going to operate outside the rules of law. Bad message."

http://www.pennlive.com/columns/patriotnews/review/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1159557913281310.xml&coll=1&thispage=1
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:33 AM
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1. "Bad message."
Damn, right.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:49 AM
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2. "None of us feels comfortable speaking out publicly..."
You know that it's bad when a General prefaces him comments with a remark like that. Not that we don't know it's bad without these generals telling us, but that one comment underscores the gravity for me in a voice that both surprises me and gives my normal rantings about * more weight in some circles.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 06:36 AM
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3. Where are these people when it matters?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 06:46 AM
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4. Definitely K&R. n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:02 AM
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5. kicked and recommended
for the Truth. :patriot:
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:22 AM
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6. Does this give those still serving
moral support to begin disobeying illegal orders?

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:55 AM
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7. This probably isn't the place to post this,
so apologies in advance. I don't have cable and so didn't get to hear this short clip of Jack Cafferty last week. He said that both of the bills that just passed in Congress exempt this administration from any war crimes. Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRjbIQMXGQ

This is simply inexcusable.
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