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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:20 AM
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How Interest Groups Rate the Senators: (liberal - conservative)
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2006/Info/senator-ratings.html

Top 3 most liberal democratic senators: Obama, Durbin and Harkin (all tied with 98 average)

Top 3 most conservative demoocratic senators: Nelson(NE), Conrad and Baucus

Top 4 most conservative republicans: Bunning, Cochran, Bond and Sessions (all tied with an average of 1)

Top 3 most liberal republicans: Chafee, Collins and Snow (They fall in between Nelson(NE) and Conrad).

Joe Lieberman's ranking: Average is a 77, there are 8 democrats lower than him including my own Tom Carper :grr:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:25 AM
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1. Lieberman's numbers are deceptive.
He piles on when his vote isn't necessary and bails when the Dems need him the most.

Kinda like A-Rod.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:27 AM
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2. That could be the case and I'm not defending him
I'm just curious why we (including me - I'm from Delaware) did nothing to get rid of those listed below Lieberman. I mean if Lieberman is that horrible of a democrat how do these others get a free pass?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:34 AM
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4. They're all from red states. Notice that they all
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 10:35 AM by geek tragedy
(except for Nelson) are better than even Lincoln Chafee, Collins, and Snowe, who happen to represent blue states.


Lieberman belongs well below the others, both for personal treachery and for his enabling of Bush.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:30 PM
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8. What's Carper's excuse
We're quite blue in Delaware expecially in the more populated northern part of the state
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:51 PM
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10. The fault lies not in Carper, but in Delaware Democrats
who allow him to get away with it.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:55 PM
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11. Well to be honest, I never thought he was that bad
Until he decided to continue supporting Lieberman after the primaries. Then it was too late to get a candidate on the ticket

:cry:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:33 PM
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13. Let's just hope that Delaware Dems have a long memory. eom
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:41 PM
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14. Since I'm one of them - trust me
I just felt we had more important races in Pennsylvania and Maryland
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:41 PM
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18. Republicans are always the #1 target, especially when
we're in the minority.

If we get to 51+, then we can really focus on the Carper's (by that I mean DLC-types from solid blue states).
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:53 PM
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17. That is the defect in all these "rate the politiwhore" reports. They are
far to easy to manipulate, and you better believe they are fully aware of it. Vote for a worthless of ineffective "liberal" bill get 1 point, vote for a blatant fascist for the SCOTUS lose 1 point. Push an anti-people bill through the whole process, but then "miss" the vote (after ensuring it will pass) and no points either way.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:31 AM
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3. Note, also, how steeply the numbers fall to "1" after Ben Nelson...
never let anyone tell you there's no difference between the two parties.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:39 AM
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5. TY! Hillary & Schumer scored fairly high with a 95 avg.
n/t
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:40 AM
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6. and my state's Senators...
have an average rating of...5.

Bond is a 1, Talent is at 9. :puke:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 10:42 AM
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7. And this is why these compilations
and rankings are utter baloney. When you have torture enablers like Menendez ranking as more liberal than my Senator, Pat Leahy, who's been consistently liberal in his 30 years in the Senate, you know there's something messed up.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:45 PM
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9. Actually, Menedez is more liberal than Leahy
I think there was some mention not only here but elsewhere that the Democrats are pushing to get the torture bill to go to the courts where they can permamently shoot it down and make what Bush is doing illegal.

Menendez has always been pretty liberal. As a member of the house he didn't support the IWR vote or the Patriot Act. So that list is pretty dead on-accurate.

I'm thinking we've not heard the last of the torture bill and perhaps to help eliminate the nagging "Democrats soft on terrorism" TV ads that Kean would have definately pushed, both Menendez and even Lautenberg (another liberal) took a chance that this will get into the courts and be totally reversed.

And if the courts overturn this rule - then it pretty much says that what Bush has been doing was illegal. Only problem is now the Torture has taken a backseat to Foley
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:16 PM
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12. Sorry, Menendez
is a political opportunist torture supporter. He's not in the same league as Senator Leahy. Not. Even. Close.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:46 PM
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16. I think trying to peg a politician on a single issue...
can lead to skewing or perceptions of skewing. Overall, the ratings seem right on.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:46 PM
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15. HORSEPOO - Biden more liberal than Kerry? A 27 for Kerry from the PTA?
How can that be when they give Kennedy a 100 and Kennedy and Kerry voted similarly n education issues?

These numbers are RIGGED - but WHY? Obama certainly does NOT have the most liberal voting record his two years in office.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:47 PM
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19. PTA's numbers are from 04 where Kerry missed a lot of votes
They consider missed votes as negative votes. Otherwise, he would be tied with Kennedy.

I am not sure why Feingold is so low either.

As for Obama, he is certainly not the most liberal senator.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 02:57 PM
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20. This looks like it's rigged to achieve a perception - question is WHY?
To effect primaries? Most likely.
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