need help here--one of my little trolls, pissed because I DARED

post about repervlicans (thanks, whoever came up with that) is insisting, of course, that dems are far more evil, corrupt, etc. and, to prove it, quotes from a book called "donkey cons" anybody know anything about it, and could possibly help me with this idiot:


No, I do not think it is okay for the Republicans to do the same thing. The few Democrats I listed were from a 1998 article in the Washington Post that I had a bookmark on. I have not had time to search because we are headed out of town for a few days.

It takes a book to cover the scandals the Democrats have been involved in. The book is Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party

by Lynn Vincent (Author), Robert Stacy McCain (Author)

Here is something I found:

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Donkey Cons was conceived more than two years ago, when no one outside had heard of a lobbyist named Jack Abramoff. How? As journalists who scour state and local news every day, we noticed something: It seems almost any crime can be excused or ignored as long as the perpetrator is a Democrat:

• A married Democratic mayor can be caught smoking crack cocaine with a prostitute and, even after he is convicted and sentenced to prison, get reelected.

• A married Democratic senator who leaves a party with a single young woman and gets into a drunk-driving accident that kills her does not merely avoid jail time, but retains his Senate seat and indeed goes on to become one of the most powerful politicians in his party.

• The entire Democratic Party is caught accepting millions in illegal foreign campaign donations and Chinagate, the biggest influence-peddling scandal in history, morphs into a bipartisan referendum on campaign finance reform!

Being a Democrat is often like holding the "get out of jail free" card. And this has been going on for more than 200 years.

When we conceived the idea for this book, we researched the topic and were surprised to find that no book like it had ever been written. There were plenty of ideological attacks on this or that aspect of liberalism, and lots of books about this or that wrongdoing of the administration.

But no one had ever tried to fit all the scandals of the Democratic Party into a single book. Once we started doing it, we quickly discovered why. The problem wasn't a shortage of Democratic cheats and crooks, but an astounding abundance of them-a veritable cornucopia of corruption, a direct line of scandal all the way back to the 1700s.

After just a few days of digging up Democratic scoundrels, it began to appear that the main difference between the Democrats and the Gambino mob is that Democrats qualify for federal matching funds.

Here are a few of the amazing stories we discovered:

• The forgotten role of the killer and traitor Aaron Burr in founding the Democratic Party and turning a New York social club into the most powerful and enduring political machine in American history, Tammany Hall.

• How gangsters wielded influence over the Democratic Party for much of the twentieth century, helping to elect three of the past six Democratic presidents.

• The brazen corruption of big-city Democrats-from Chicago to Atlanta to Philadelphia to New Orleans to Detroit-who preside over empires of graft and fraud while their policies bring nightmares of crime and squalor to the inner-city poor who are among the Democratic Party's most loyal supporters.

• That Democrats have, since the party's founding, routinely used election fraud to win -- and continue to do so today.

But Donkey Cons is more than a laundry list of Democratic scandals. Inside you will four essential points:

1) The Democratic Party has a 200-year history of urban corruption, treason and subversion, mob control, alliance with corrupt unions, and aiding and abetting criminals, that has no parallel in the GOP.

2) Corruption is as old as politics and it will always be present in both parties. But when corruption occurs in its ranks, Republicans generally clean house. Democrats, on the other hand, cover up.

3) Over the past 30 years in Congress, there have been three times as many Democratic crooks as Republican ones. (We took the trouble to actually count and it's all documented in more than 650 end notes.)

4) There is a media double-standard for covering Republican and Democratic scandal, which results in the false impression that both parties are equally corrupt.

Nancy Pelosi's "culture of corruption" canard is a straight-up lie -- and Donkey Cons proves it.

If Democrats try to make "corruption" the central issue of their 2006 campaign, they'll surely lose-and we'll probably sell a lot more books.

Come to think of it. Hey, Nancy: You go, girl!

The book is available at Amazon.com and most book stores.



Thank you all in advance.

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I think I get one or two of those references....The rest of it is hard to refute since there is nothing there...
Its kinda like trying to refute a Coulter book...

Repukes are washed up, grasping at straws - it all over for them...

we have a Democratic Party that is old line, machine politics complete with a "pay to play" culture. And the Republics have no better record - Billy Meehan et al are just as corrupt in the Republican wards of the city.

State Senator Vince Fumo is in thrall to gambling interests, Councilman Rick Mariano is at Club Fed, Mayor Street has only kept out of the sights of the FBI by throwing associates to the wolves. And the list goes on.

Street and City Council have sat on an ethics bill that would make government here in Philadelphia more transparent. L&I is a joke (Licenses and Inspections), emergency services are getting the shaft and the city is about to be sold to the casinos.

It's tough to pull that Dem lever here because of the corruption. But I hold my nose and do it.

Ted Kennedy and Marion Berry. HOW far back does that go?

Pretty pathetic. But I'm sure they'll try anything to get your eye off the birdie. I was in a sparring match like that with an unfamiliar partner at the dojo one night, while taking a make-up class that I ordinarily didn't attend. He tried this trick. While we were at it, he held up one arm, WAY up and out to the side, and wiggled the fingers I could just barely see from behind the sparring mitt. I realized he was trying to get me to look away for a second. I didn't. Kept focused at the center of his chest - where you have a pretty good peripheral vision view of ALL the moving body parts surrounding it. He couldn't distract me. It enabled me to deflect all his punches - 'cause I could see them all coming, AND I got in a few good ones of my own. And interestingly enough, he only tried that distraction trick with me ONCE. I guess we both realized at the same time that it was a trick that wouldn't work.

thanks for that..!!

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like Kennedy (accident, dummies) and Chinagate (never happened, unless you count Hayley Barbour's trips to Hong Kong with bags of cash shipped back). Even Marion Barry was what, over 2 decades ago?

The GOP is sunk in filth and corruption RIGHT HERE and RIGHT NOW.

That's what writers of trash like that can't bear to face.

What Democrats have done in the PAST is irrelevant unless Democrats are the standard of behavior for Republicans, in which case, why vote for them?

The problem for Republicans is they set themselves up as morally superior to Democrats. Now they're crying because, hey, we're just like the Democrats, why are you getting mad? If Republicans are just like the Democrats, why vote for them?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Since the Democrats have been out of power so long, they are currently much less corrupt than the Republicans, who are stone drunk with it. Should the Dems get as much power as the Republicans currently hold, they too will need a reality check. Pendulums do swing.

RIGHT NOW the Republican Party is setting records for incompetence, heartlessness, and corruption. It really is going to be hard to beat their record. Because they refuse to investigate, we don't even know all the appalling things they done, how much they've stolen.

Everything the Republicans promised has turned out to be false. Everything. Especially their morals. So, why would anyone vote for them?

but I'll venture off on a few of points.

1. The crack smoking mayor was Marion Berry, the book is right on that, there's very little excuse for him and one has to wonder how he managed to get back into office after getting out of jail. The Democratic party, however, has certainly not encouraged him. He's a force of his own.

2. Ted Kennedy did get into an accident that killed his female passenger. I don't know what happened and neither does anyone else. Based on Kennedy's character, past and present, I'm inclined to believe his side of the story.

3. "Chinagate" as the book apparently calls it was dropped quickly and quietly by the repub congress when it was found that they were taking over twice the amount Dems were. No real campaign finance reform was enacted because of it.

4. Aaron Burr is only liked to the modern Democratic party by ideologically bankrupt repub trying desperately to slander others without any actual facts to back them up. The Democratic Republican Party was actually founded by Thomas Jefferson, not Burr. The modern Democratic Party was founded by Andrew Jackson in 1824 when he and his supporters split off from the dominant Democratic Republican Party and formed their own party.

5. Gangs have been active in both parties throughout history. To make the claim of "mob influence" is misleading and desperate. Making a statement like that is indicative of a political hit piece.

6. To focus on "big-city mayors" and their corruption means we have to not only look at the Democratic ones but the repubs as well. Mayor Philip Giordano (R) of Waterbury, CT comes quickly to mind for not only mismanaging city funds but for his taste in pre-pubescent prostitutes.

7. To accuse Dems of election fraud is laughable on its face. As has been proved time and again, bush* and his cronies are responsible for the largest election fraud in history. To state otherwise can only be projection at best.

8. The last four points are nothing more than generalized slurs with no fact or even specific rumor to back them up. They reside in the realm of "Did too"! There's not much more that can be said about them.

Hope this helps.

do not distinguish between Republicans and Democrats. Scum comes in red and blue both.

to wipe the floor with that annoying little troll, with great pleasure.

all of you have a wonderful evening.

Also, how about the "Repedophiles"?:rofl:

That's the big difference here. Dems are human and, as such, subject to human error. But when you run as the "Party Closest to God," you run the risk being exposed as hypocrites when you tumble off your pedestal, or horse. And it's a long fall to the ground.