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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:44 AM
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Rationalizing the occupation, Rove's AEI says U.S. broke Iraq, must fix it
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 07:46 AM by ProSense

Insult to Injury in Iraq

By Frederick W. Kagan
Wednesday, October 25, 2006; Page A17

It's been coming for a long time: the idea that fixing Iraq is the Iraqis' problem, not ours -- that we've done all we can and now it's up to them.

Such arguments have been latent in the Bush administration's Iraq strategy and explicit in Democratic critiques of that strategy for some time. Now Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has declared: "It's their country. . . . They're going to have to govern it, they're going to have to provide security for it, and they're going to have to do it sooner rather than later."

The implication of these arguments is clear: The United States should prepare to leave Iraq, after which the Iraqis will work out their own troubles -- or they won't. In any event, we can no longer help them. This notion is wrong and morally contemptible, and it endangers American security around the world.

The current crisis in Iraq is no more just an Iraqi problem than it has ever been. The U.S. military destroyed Iraq's government and all institutions able to keep civil order. It designated itself an "occupying force," thereby accepting the responsibility to restore and maintain such order. And yet U.S. Central Command never actually made establishing order and security a priority. Its commander throughout the insurgency, Gen. John Abizaid, has instead repeatedly declared that America's role is primarily to train Iraqi forces to put down their own rebellion and maintain order.

By allowing violence and disorder to spread throughout the country, the Bush administration has broken faith with the Iraqi people and ignored its responsibilities. It has placed U.S. security in jeopardy by creating the preconditions for the sort of terrorist safe haven the president repeatedly warns about and by demonstrating that no ally can rely on America to be there when it counts.

A rapid U.S. withdrawal would lead to catastrophe in Iraq. The presence of American troops is vital to restraining Iraqi soldiers -- the Iraqis know not to participate in death squad activities when Americans are around. The fact that large numbers of U.S. troops are not embedded with the Iraqi police is a main reason for the participation of those forces in the killings. When the U.S. troops go, the Iraqi army will probably go the same way.

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Too late! Iraq is in a civil war. The Iraqis want us out. The troops want out. It's time to investigate everyone connected to this illegal war---from the Bush administration to the war profiteers:

Idle Contractors Add Millions to Iraq Rebuilding



A prison built in Nasiriya, Iraq, by the Parsons group. Overhead costs eat up large shares of such contracts.

By JAMES GLANZ
Published: October 25, 200

Overhead costs have consumed more than half the budget of some reconstruction projects in Iraq, according to a government estimate released yesterday, leaving far less money than expected to provide the oil, water and electricity needed to improve the lives of Iraqis.

The report provided the first official estimate that, in some cases, more money was being spent on housing and feeding employees, completing paperwork and providing security than on actual construction.

Those overhead costs have ranged from under 20 percent to as much as 55 percent of the budgets, according to the report, by the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction. On similar projects in the United States, those costs generally run to a few percent.

The highest proportion of overhead was incurred in oil-facility contracts won by KBR Inc., the Halliburton subsidiary formerly known as Kellogg Brown & Root, which has frequently been challenged by critics in Congress and elsewhere.

The actual costs for many projects could be even higher than the estimates, the report said, because the United States has not properly tracked how much such expenses have taken from the $18.4 billion of taxpayer-financed reconstruction approved by Congress two years ago.

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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:46 AM
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1. It'd be nice if we were fixing it
Instead we're just breaking it over and over and over again :eyes:
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:53 AM
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2. We broke Vietnam and stayed till we fixed it, too...
Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 07:54 AM by Crankie Avalon
...oh wait, we didn't do that--we just stayed and stayed and stayed because certain men's egos were more imporatant than human lives ("I won't be the first American president to lose a war!") and resulted in tens of thousands more of our soldiers killed, plus hundreds of thousands more Vietnamese, when we should have done the sensible AND DECENT thing and cut our losses.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:55 AM
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3. The republican party broke Iraq not the U. S.
Give credit where credit is due rove, don't be bashful. Your fucking party breaks everything it touches. A skeptical son of a bitch like me might think its intentional.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:00 AM
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6. Spot on ... lay it right on them where it belongs. They own it. nt
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:25 PM
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9. yes, let's take it out of their pay
Bush should get stuck with the bill, it is off budget anyway.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:55 AM
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4. Curious thing in that photo.
No one is working. I've noticed they never regale us with "productivity" metrics from Iraq. American industry has metrics on how long the average US worker spends in the can. But you never see anything resembling any of these figures from Iraq, do you? Strange form the Statistically obsessed American business community...
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 07:57 AM
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5. And we can heal them with their own Petroleum Jelly.
Or is it bring them to heel?
It all gets so confusing when you've been using lubricated nightsticks to rectum.
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:00 AM
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7. Bull in a China Shop etc.
Hey, Toro, you're not leaving until you've put all that Limoges back together!

Want another one?

Ever hear of Humpty Dumpty?

When you break an egg, you can make an omelet, but you can't have Humpty back.

I actually think the writer has a point, if it were possible. But it is not. The reality is, Humpty Dumpty will never come back together again. It's omelet time, and we are no longer in control of the kitchen.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 08:07 AM
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8. Related Story: Halliburton reports INSANE profits
Gosh...what a coinky-dink!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 03:16 PM
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10. So, a turd walks into Pottery Barn...
I just flew in from Iraq, and boy are my arms tired.


I mean, really. Come on! The manager says you don't have to pay. We know you were just shopping. We know it was an accident. (Actually it wasn't an accident. Actually he owns the store.) So why are you insisting of paying for it?

And the punchline?... Wait for it!...






IT'S NOT MY MONEY!!!!! (Laughter. Applause. Trombones.)
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