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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:52 AM Original message |
Pelosi taps DLC to develop party's Innovation Proposal |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Consolation Prize. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. consolation prize prize for what? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. For losing control over the Democratic Party |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. when did they have control over the Democratic party? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. About 2 weeks ago things shifted. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Really? How so? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Two years ago, when the Party had hit bottom, the DLC was in charge. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. HOW was the DLC in charge? I know you're saying it, but you're not showing it |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. If you don't acknowledge there's been a change, I can't persuade you. eom |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. All I'm asking is for you show HOW they were in charge two years ago. |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. The search function and the googles are your friends |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. DU is the only place where people who make claims expect others to prove them |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Quick explanation.... |
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cmkramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Wrong |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. not so fast |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. I will add that Hoyer became the Whip when Pelosi became Minority Leader (nt) |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
82. Great reply, you're correct on many of your points. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Notice how these people disappear when their posts are revealed as BS? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. yes I do. The question should be easy to answer if the charge is true, right? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. What do you want, a dissertation on the change in the party since 2004? OK |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. No, just how the DLC has been in control |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I think you're just being stubborn now. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. what? Because I won't just agree with you void of any factual data? |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Sorry, not playing this game anymore |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. you mean the game where you get mad 'cause no one will take your word for it? |
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jackbourassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. How were the DLC in charge? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. whoah - not so fast. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Shhhhh pesky facts are ruining peoples' need to rant |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. The DLC did endorse Lieberman in 2004. Then when it became clear that his polls were failing they |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. No, they did not. Unless you have a link for that endorsement? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
77. Jack anyone who does not know what the DLC is or who they act for |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
102. Don't fuck with the DLC guy. He'll bore you to death. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Tell that to Majority Leader Hoyer |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Steny won't claim that he's in charge. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Pelosi may turn out to be little more than a figurehead |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Deleted sub-thread |
jackbourassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. A figurehead? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. Speakers come and go too |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Deleted sub-thread |
Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Pelosi won by acclamation |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. For not winning the race |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. There was a race to control Dems in the Congress? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Yes, back room politics are going on now |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. There was NO fight for Pelosi's job. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Parsing |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. fact. Give us the details if you know better. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Deleted sub-thread |
Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. wyldwolf, it's been a while since I've posted on this ridiculous argument... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. I think you nailed it. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
103. Just couldn't stay away, huh? |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Bingo. A very smart move on her part |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. perhaps you can give the answer leveymg either can't or won't... |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. See reply upthread |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. see reply upthread |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank the Goddess they will share the national stage with others! |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
5. It's a good time to move forward as Country. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
23. Where does the DLC come in here? The New Dem's aren't |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I think NDC is a creation of the New Dem. Movement that was started by the DLC |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Thanks, but is it fair than to lump all newly elected Dems as New Dems? n/t |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. I don't know. Did anyone do that? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. A full half of the newly-elected Dems |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. ... the House New Democrat Coalition - the DLC in the House |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. the House New Democrat Coalition is DLC - link in post |
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AlGore-08.com (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
24. I've got a practical question - - why, outside of party politics, is this happening? |
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independentpiney (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I think it's all party politics. n/t |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
27. Pelosi has been great for fostering young |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
47. Doubt they'll come up with anything useful |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. So sayeth the fountain of love! The hypcorisy is mind boggling |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Show us - what have you got? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. sinse the assignment was just made, there are no results to show...however... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Means nothing |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. A list of people means a list of people. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. I am growing tired of slapping you around. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. "They're too busy trying to screw Pelosi over". How do you know this?? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Read the news |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Nice non-answer. nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. can you see the winning lottery numbers in that crystal ball? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Are you really that ignorant |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. no, but you must be to present those links that say nothing to make your point. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Just curious -- what would you / do you celebrate in having a majority-DLC House/Senate? n.t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Seems to me... |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Hmn. A non-answer. Alrighty. n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. You could have asked me who my cell phone service provider is... |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. No need to elaborate on your non-answer. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:53 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. you need to ask a relavent question |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. As I said, alrighty. n/t |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
75. Do you ever notice how you can tell from the shape of the reply summary... |
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let us vote (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
76. Is Nancy DLC? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. No she isn't |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. The DLC is making a power grab? LOL! You're really grasping |
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Robert Oak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
79. H-1B cheap labor lobby |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
86. Right now, there is a power struggle within the party. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. How could they "purge" anyone? |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Well they did a good job with "removing" Howard Dean in '04 |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Howard Dean did just fine removing himself. |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Excuse me but... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Howard Dean obviously wasn't prepared for a national campaign |
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Cascadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Yeah. I suppose you're "RIGHT". |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Well, I am correct |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. All those ideas were just fine. But the fact that Howard went belly up |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. What happened was Dean and Gephardt beat the crap |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. don't ruin a perfectly good "DLC is the root of all evil" conspiracy! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
100. The article basically says nothing about this proposal. |
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