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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:22 PM
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New idea: privatize the police
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 02:29 PM by darboy
since the Repubs like privatization so much and think that universal health care is "socialist" why not privatize police?

Make all citizens buy "crime insurance" and if they get victimized then they have to pay to have the person thrown in jail and kept there. If they can't afford crime insurance or only inadequate crime insurance and this means they go into bankruptcy (say if there was a murder and they had to pay to keep a guy in jail for the rest of his life), then so be it.

It's gotta be better than the "socialist" government police department, right?

I mean except for all the criminals who would get away with crimes.


edit: :sarcasm:

I know maybe we can have Charlie Rangel introduce this awful proposal to "make a point" about universal health care.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:24 PM
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1. BOP is bad enough... not a good idea.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:25 PM
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2. HELL NO!
Edited on Sun Nov-26-06 02:25 PM by Joanne98
We will have no control over private police or military. Keep them owned by the public.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:26 PM
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3. haha
read the post more carefully. :)
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:27 PM
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4. the mafia beat you to this idea, but I hope Bushies don't see it. they'll do it.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:30 PM
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5. Geez, it would be like have bounty hunters for every little
stupid thing from traffic tickets to murder investigations. Constitution? Fourth Amendment? What does that have to do with anything?

No thank you.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:30 PM
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6. we should just privatize the government, so instead of voting, people would buy shares
that would make them pay attention.

Of course, our debt would quadruple, all our taxes would end up in an unnumbered bank account in the Cayman Islands, and the country would go bankrupt, but isn't that what the GOP wants for us anyway?

It's already been done to South America.
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:34 PM
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8. Hmmm... A US takeover bid by China is in the books...
Leveraged buy-out and golden parachutes for the caretaker administration included!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:49 PM
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14. although golden parachutes don't seem to be contingent on job performance, these guys still deserve
a golden shower more.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:48 PM
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23. Naw, these guys would like it! nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 09:46 PM
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26. brown hail storm?
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:39 AM
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28. didn't they do that already by putting it up for sale on K Street?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:31 PM
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7. Please don't scare the crap out of me.
In this climate, I swore this was going to be a news article. Phew. Thank goodness it's just a bad dream.

If for no other reason but it could be changed every voting cycle, government funded police are not as bad. That's just one of many thoughts that whirl through my foggy head on this subject.

No way!
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:34 PM
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9. its a brilliant example
becuase Repubs DO like privatization but they would HATE this, and it would force them to acknowledge the benefit of universal service provision.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:51 PM
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15. I don't think they would hate it. Friends could profit, rich could pay for gaurd at gated community
and the rest of us would be too busy fighting like dogs over scraps of their garbage to ever bother them.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:04 PM
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18. but criminals would get away with crimes much more often
remember not all republicans are rich. In fact most of them are not. Many are fundies or libertarians.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:17 PM
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21. when it comes down to a conflict between voters and donors, who do they choose?
They would figure out a way to sell it to the rubes, compare cops to the DMV and say private cops would be as fast as McDonald's drive thru, or like the old Domino's commercial: "cops at your house in 30 minutes or the protection is free."
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 05:50 PM
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24. But it's only the rich ones that matter. They get all the money and
make all the rules.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:36 PM
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10. The concept
was explored in the movie "RoboCop". Didn't turn out too well, as I recall.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:37 PM
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11. They have already been trying to privatize the military.
I'm positive that they want the police privatized as well.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:40 PM
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12. Im sure the most radical of libertarians do
but its just such a bad idea.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:48 PM
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13. Private security companies
Maybe if rich people had to use the same cops as you and me, we'd have the money for COPS and other preventive security programs.

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 02:52 PM
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16. No Joke - This is one logical extension of the 'free market'
As someone else noted, the Mafia is a perfect example of the free market in a microcosm. Russia is a great example. It's now run by oligarchs and organized crime (as if there's a difference).

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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 03:16 PM
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17. The problem with this sarcastic suggestion is that THEY'D LIKE IT!!! n/t
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turbo_satan Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:05 PM
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19. Read "Jennifer Government." Great work of fiction in which...
everything is privatized, including the police.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:13 PM
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20. Been there, done that.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 04:53 PM
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22. I don't think you totally understand how that would work
A private cooperation would run the police like say GE
They would first start by protecting there own, the rich and famous in walled communities and the rest would be slaves for the taking.
With a privatized prison system they could use the inmates for free labor so the more they sent to prison the better.
It would matter less what the crime was than whether the criminal was healthy enough to work and young enough to give a good return on the investment.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-26-06 08:49 PM
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25. If There is a Way to Make This Point Effectively,
I'm all for it. Including introducing a bill just for provocation.

There are libertarians who would want to do this. And it's a good public conversation to have to show how far out of step with the average person these "drown the government in the bathtub" types are.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 10:34 AM
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27. You & I have said similar things.
The nazi party members stupidly think "socialized medicine" is terrible, but they really love their socialist police force, socialist fire dept., socialist road repair, socialist military, socialist medicare, etc.


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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-27-06 04:44 PM
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29. isn't that what happened in Robo-cop? nt
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