The ISG draws a line: - Democratic Underground

ProSense

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Wed Dec-06-06 11:51 PM
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The ISG draws a line:

Timetable vs. stay the course. The only other position to debate is between stay or leave sometime beyond the report's 2008 vague time frame.

Hayden gets it and is advocating for a set deadline.

The IRG is a step in the right direction (took the neocons/wingnuts out of the equation), but it's flawed:

The Baker Report tries to have it both ways on some crucial issues. While it says it is against a large increase in troops, it then says it “could, however, support a short-term redeployment or surge of American combat forces to stabilize Baghdad, or to speed up the training and equipping mission.”

And while it echoes John Kerry’s 2004 campaign comment that “the President should state that the United States does not seek permanent military bases in Iraq,” the report in the next sentence adds: “If the Iraqi government were to request a temporary base or bases, then the U.S. government could consider that request as it would in the case of any other government.”

Kerry Says, Others Agree - Part 1 and Part 2

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WCGreen

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Thu Dec-07-06 12:33 AM
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1. You have to have dealines in order to force the Iraqi's hands....

It's like a dad yelling up to his kids goffing around past bedtime...

Don't make me come up there, yells the father...

The the giggling still goes on....

I'm warning you, yells the father....

And yet another round of giggling erupts...

and so on and so on....

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ProSense

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Thu Dec-07-06 07:42 AM
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2. Can't use that analogy

unless the crutch element (U.S. military) is added:

Dad yelling up to his kids, who are making too much noise while playing with dad's video games, which they are allowed to play with until their bedtime.

Noise continues, dad goes up yanks a couple of games.

The noise goes on/or not.

Bedtime comes, dad pulls plug on system, takes it to another room to enjoy.

The noise still goes on/or not...eventually they fall asleep.

Dad video system isn't broken.

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ProSense

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Thu Dec-07-06 01:01 PM
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3. Part 3

Kerry Says, Others Agree - Part 3

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