My Prediction-Baker Report will simply slide away in the news.

leftyladyfrommo

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Fri Dec-08-06 09:31 AM
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My Prediction-Baker Report will simply slide away in the news.

Edited on Fri Dec-08-06 09:39 AM by leftyladyfrommo

Seems to be happening all ready. Too much disagreement.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_061208.htm
I'm giving it a few days but I bet its all gone in less than that.

The truth is that nothing is going to fix Iraq and people know that. It is too late. It was too late before the actual war even began.

Now - we can stay and see if we can help keep the violence down. Or we can go. And if we do that the whole Middle East may be pulled into the mess.

We really have no good options at all. It's like Annan said. We can't stay and we can't go.

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mdmc

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Fri Dec-08-06 09:35 AM
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1. it really only does two things

1. Reality based analysis of what is happening in Iraq.
2. Clearly states that the neo-con strategy is not working.

that is the extent of this document
All the recommendations are pretty moot (disarm the milita's:eyes: <-no shit )

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madrchsod

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Fri Dec-08-06 09:36 AM
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2. the baker-hamilton report ?

you are right, no one will remember what it was all about.

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asjr

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Fri Dec-08-06 09:59 AM
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3. The report basically had no teeth. You can

always lead a jackass to water but you can't make him drink it. That is what we are faced with.

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leftyladyfrommo

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Fri Dec-08-06 11:15 AM
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4. Bush intends to just ignore the whole thing.

His ego just won't allow him to admit what a mess things are.

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dmosh42

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Fri Dec-08-06 12:16 PM
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5. All the more reason to keep it alive!

Some prominent Repubs endorsed this plan, and I think the Dems should use it as a 'wedge' issue, because we all know Bush wants to ignore it. We need the people to realize Bush 'is the problem'.

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leftyladyfrommo

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Fri Dec-08-06 12:31 PM
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6. Well except people are dying because of his stubborness.

We really need to get him out of there.

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leftofthedial

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Fri Dec-08-06 12:32 PM
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7. other groups and possible 2008 candidates will produce "plans"

The ISG will just be one of many, most designed to maximize political benefit for the 2008 elections.

The chaotic clusterfuck bloodbath that is Iraq will be a political football until 2009 at the earliest.

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AtomicKitten

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Fri Dec-08-06 12:37 PM
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8. I don't think they even traveled outside the Green Zone.

I think Baker's real mission was to secure and privatize Iraqi oil. Mission accomplished.

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hijinx87

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Fri Dec-08-06 12:44 PM
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9. it may as well. it isn't doing the left any good.

it fails to take into consideration the false pretenses under
which we attacked iraq.

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paulk

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Fri Dec-08-06 01:05 PM
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10. I think it will have a "behind the scenes" effect

The recommendations will most likely come to nothing, but the report is a damning indictment of the Bush administration's foreign policy, and that will have an effect. There were some really prominent Republican names (and through them, factions) who signed on to this thing, and Bush can't pretend any longer that it's business as usual.

This report was a shot across the bow of the Bush cabal, and while we may not like or agree with the people who fired that shot, I really do think that something will come of it.

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